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A few weeks ago, I picked up a long forend 1886 carbine in .45-70. Serial number is in the 17XXX range. I know these guns are quite rare, but I have been searching for any survey information that has been done on this model and can’t seem to find anything. I would be interested to know how many of these carbines might have been made. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Go to the magazine rack above and look at the Spring 1991 issue page 39 “Model 1886, Survey of Available Records” by William L. Porter. It says there are 6223 carbines. The title on the article itself is a misprint, it says 1866 but it is the 1886 article.
https://winchestercollector.org/magazines/199103/index.html#42
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
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I appreciate the info, but that wasn’t my question. I am familiar with the total number of 1886 carbines. John Madl and Porter arrived at that figure after researcher John Hawk actually counted each gun in the records. My question is in regards to the “LONG FOREND” carbines. I am curious to know if anyone has done any survey on these guns. Madl and Porters report makes no mention concerning the number of these guns produced.
Does the gun letter with the long forearm?
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
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I believe that you will find that as far as Winchester was concerned, an 1886 carbine was an 1886 carbine and there are no factory records that differentiate between the 2 styles.
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Rick,
You are correct. I talked with John Hawk yesterday and he told me that he researched the entire 1886 serial range and only found a handful of carbines that were actually listed with “long forend”. My gun letters as a carbine .45-70, but no mention of it having the long wood. It’s a keeper, for now anyway. I love my 73’s and 76’s and this carbine looks odd hanging on my wall.
Russ just interested where you got the info for the 319 number ? Is there a good source for this type of info ? I have not found a book for 1886’s but maybe there is one.
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