Avatar
Search
Forum Scope




Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
Lost password?
Avatar
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 32
Member Since:
July 21, 2018
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
1
May 28, 2020 - 7:14 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

Being fairly new at owning old Winchesters I have a question on barrel lengths of the 1873. Other than carbines what are the most standard lengths in rifles? I know the shortest length without papers is 16″ but what were the longest? What is the standard diameter? I learn more from people than books.

thanks all

Avatar
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 491
Member Since:
January 19, 2017
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
2
May 28, 2020 - 7:27 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

I was wrong, once, but I *think* 36″ was the longest.  I will shortly be corrected if’n I’m wrong again.

Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 445
Member Since:
July 31, 2005
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
3
May 28, 2020 - 8:17 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

Standard barrel length for 1873 sporting rifles was 24 inches.   Barrel diameter seems to depend on when the rifle was made and its caliber for standard weight barrels.   I have not recorded barrel diameter at the breech.  I have seen  .38 and .32 caliber barrels and they are lighter than those for .44 caliber rifles.  Another clinker is the short rifles.  They mostly (but not always) use smaller diameter barrels at the breech end and have the corresponding “step” in the receiver used by .38 and 32 caliber guns.  Confusing eh?   I wish I could tell you there are no deviations from standard, but hey, this is Winchester.  

From my observations, 1st and 2nd model rifles had slightly heavier barrels than 3rd models in .44 WCF.

From rifles in my collection or previously mine, I have recorded:

SN 15,259 .44 WCF, 1st model round barrel, 24 inch length, .820″ muzzle diameter

SN 30,545 .44 WCF, 2nd model octagon barrel, 30 inch length, .785″ muzzle across flats

SN 252,806 .44 WCF, 3rd model round barrel, 24 inch length, .810″ muzzle diameter

SN 321,821 .38 WCF, 3rd model octagon barrel, 28 inch length, .725″ muzzle across flats

SN 453,520 .44 WCF, 3rd model octagon barrel, 24 inch length, .816″ muzzle across flats

I call myself a collector as it sounds better than hoarder

Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 544
Member Since:
February 19, 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
4
May 28, 2020 - 8:53 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

dont forget Heavy or Extra Heavy barrels that measure 1″ at the muzzle….

Avatar
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 491
Member Since:
January 19, 2017
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
5
May 28, 2020 - 9:48 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

Bill Hockett said

SN 30,545 .44 WCF, 2nd model octagon barrel, 30 inch length, .785″ muzzle across flats

SN 321,821 .38 WCF, 3rd model octagon barrel, 28 inch length, .725″ muzzle across flats

Sweet!

Avatar
Wisconsin
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 4660
Member Since:
May 2, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
6
May 28, 2020 - 10:48 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

AS to barrel lengths for a rifle they went from 14″ to 36″

The breech diameter will be larger for the 44 at .944″ average and the muzzle is .810″ average. The 38 and 32 will be smaller with a breech of .876″ average and the muzzle average of .740″. Muzzle diameters will vary depending on length, normally a extra length will be smaller than a standard length barrel but that is not always the case. Now this is just for full octagon barrels. I didn’t do any research on round barrels.

Bob

WACA Life Member---
NRA Life Member----
Cody Firearms member since 1991
Researching the Winchester 1873's

73_86cutaway.jpg

Email: [email protected]

Avatar
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 32
Member Since:
July 21, 2018
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
7
May 28, 2020 - 11:22 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_EditHistory sp_QuotePost

Thanks for the education. I just picked up a 30″ bbl. in 32-20. Caliber marking on the barrel says 32-cal. as well as the lifter. When did they stop marking the caliber that way on the barrel? Answered my own ? on model #.

Avatar
Wisconsin
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 4660
Member Since:
May 2, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
8
May 28, 2020 - 11:30 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

2nd model went to 100,000 so its a third model. The ultimate tell is the dust cover rail. Is it screwed on to the receiver or is part of the receiver? The second model was screwed on.

Bob

WACA Life Member---
NRA Life Member----
Cody Firearms member since 1991
Researching the Winchester 1873's

73_86cutaway.jpg

Email: [email protected]

Avatar
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 32
Member Since:
July 21, 2018
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
9
May 28, 2020 - 11:33 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

 Just looked and the dust cover has a screw on the breech end.

Avatar
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 491
Member Since:
January 19, 2017
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
10
May 28, 2020 - 11:37 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

I was drooling around the interwebs about 5 (?) years ago and there seemed to be a bunch of 30″ers out there, and a few 32″ and a 36″.  I think they were different owners and several out of Texas.  All dark guns (my favorite) and reasonably priced.  Did I buy any?  No.  Now, how to get this boot out of my rear? FrownEmbarassed   

Avatar
Wisconsin
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 4660
Member Since:
May 2, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
11
May 28, 2020 - 11:38 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

Not the dust cover but the rail it slides on.

Bob

WACA Life Member---
NRA Life Member----
Cody Firearms member since 1991
Researching the Winchester 1873's

73_86cutaway.jpg

Email: [email protected]

Avatar
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 32
Member Since:
July 21, 2018
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
12
May 28, 2020 - 11:46 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

No screw other than the front of the dust cover. 3rd model then. I think the rear sight has been replaced but I just want a good shooter. If it shoots well, this will do nicely till I find the right 1873.Laugh

Forum Timezone: UTC 0
Most Users Ever Online: 4623
Currently Online:
Guest(s) 215
Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)
Top Posters:
clarence: 7119
TXGunNut: 6199
Chuck: 5610
steve004: 5039
1873man: 4660
Big Larry: 2508
twobit: 2479
mrcvs: 2132
Maverick: 1937
Forum Stats:
Groups: 1
Forums: 18
Topics: 14439
Posts: 128506

 

Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 2022
Members: 9791
Moderators: 4
Admins: 3
Navigation