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Original Winchester U.S. Model of 1917 For Sale
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I have a collection of high conditioned U.S. military arms dating from 1795 to 1945 that I have decided to sell at age soon to be 82.  Offered here is a very high condition Winchester Model of 1917 in all original condition with bright blue armory finish and all Winchester parts with excellent Winchester red stock.  It has a nice Milsco 1917 dated sling.  Can provide additional photos if required.  Price $1,900 plus shipping to your FFL:

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Rick,

Great looking 1917!  Is that an import marking on the underside of the barrel?

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Jeff:

Great eye!  Thanks for catching that. Believe it is but hard for me to decipher it.  I bought the rifle back in 2005 and frankly overlooked it at it is difficult to see.1917-bbl..jpgImage Enlarger

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Rick Hill said
 

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Swanton, Vt, isn’t far from St. Albans, present home of Century Arms, major importer of milsurps, like my Russian SKS.

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Hi Rick. Your old friend Larry here. Do you have any Springfield 22’s for sale?  Thanks, Big Larry

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Hi Rick,

I just saw the “VT” in the first photo and figured it was an import mark.  Yours is stamped “.30-06 cal CDI Swan VT”.  CDI was Classic Distributors, Incorporated, Airport Road, Building #2, Swanton, Vermont, 05488.  They were one of the good importers that discreetly marked their imports for aesthetics.  They used to bring in some nice stuff, it is a shame they are out of business.

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I just saw the “VT” in the first photo and figured it was an import mark.  Yours is stamped “.30-06 cal CDI Swan VT”.  CDI was Classic Distributors, Incorporated, Airport Road, Building #2, Swanton, Vermont, 05488.  They were one of the good importers that discreetly marked their imports for aesthetics.  They used to bring in some nice stuff, it is a shame they are out of business.

Curious that two milsurp importers chose to locate themselves in such an out of the mainstream location.  Century had worked out a deal to buy many thousands of M1 rifles & carbines from S. Korea before it was killed by our dearly beloved Chief Executive at the time, who refused to authorize the necessary import permit.

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Many thanks to both Clarence and Jeff for their knowledge and help identifying the import mark.  Much appreciated…………

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Rick,

I am looking for a high condition Winchester Pattern ’14 (basically the pre-cursor to the 1917 except in .303 British) if you happen to have one of those for sale? 

I have 3 Winchester examples, none of them high grade, although 1 of them is pre-Weedon modification so I doubt I will ever find a better of that variation since they are so scarce.

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Sorry Jeff, i don’t have a P-14.

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Larry, 

a local KC auction company has a M2 Springfield .22

https://www.soulisauctions.com/Cat/LP54957-springfield-22-cal-m1922m11-bolt-action-rifle

I do not know if this is what you are looking for, but looks nice in the photos. 

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Larry, 

a local KC auction company has a M2 Springfield .22

https://www.soulisauctions.com/Cat/LP54957-springfield-22-cal-m1922m11-bolt-action-rifle

I do not know if this is what you are looking for, but looks nice in the photos. 

This one represents some of the unfortunate things that can go wrong if one of these guns remains too long in gov’t service:  it’s been restocked in the ugliest stock ever to come out of SA, & adding insult to injury, Parkerized. 

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I don’t understand why an Import mark lessens the value of a gun?  All it means is that the gun stayed over seas after the war and was later brought back to the US. 

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Colsuper said
Larry, 

a local KC auction company has a M2 Springfield .22

https://www.soulisauctions.com/Cat/LP54957-springfield-22-cal-m1922m11-bolt-action-rifle

I do not know if this is what you are looking for, but looks nice in the photos. 

Kevin

  

Thanks Kevin. That stock is a “B” stock, and may be original to that rifle. I have located another reworked M2, but it is not at the sellers place. He took it to a Texas gun show. If it does not sell, I may buy it. Pricey, but refurbished by the armory, and is minty. If it sells at the gun show, I may bid on the one you sent the link on. Thank you very much. Big Larry

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clarence said

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Larry, 

a local KC auction company has a M2 Springfield .22

https://www.soulisauctions.com/Cat/LP54957-springfield-22-cal-m1922m11-bolt-action-rifle

I do not know if this is what you are looking for, but looks nice in the photos. 

This one represents some of the unfortunate things that can go wrong if one of these guns remains too long in gov’t service:  it’s been restocked in the ugliest stock ever to come out of SA, & adding insult to injury, Parkerized. 

  

It’s a service “B” stock and quite scarce. Most of these rifles were originally rust blued, but some later ones were black parkerized. Unaltered, the blued M1 22 service rifles are quite rare. I had one in my former collection. Looking back, I wish I had kept all the Springfield 22’s I had. Some were very scarce. Big Larry

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Big Larry said Thanks Kevin. That stock is a “B” stock, and may be original to that rifle. I have located another reworked M2, but it is not at the sellers place. He took it to a Texas gun show. If it does not sell, I may buy it. Pricey, but refurbished by the armory, and is minty. If it sells at the gun show, I may bid on the one you sent the link on. Thank you very much. Big Larry

Gosh, Larry, shocked you’d want it!  Esp after just buying that BEAUTIFUL M1 with the Targetspot.  The B stock was probably put on there when it was converted to M11, but that’s not how  it was built as a M1; that’s what’s “tragic”–the beautiful NRA stock replaced by this monstrosity!  Am I wrong?

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Big Larry said

It’s a service “B” stock and quite scarce. Most of these rifles were originally rust blued, but some later ones were black parkerized. Unaltered, the blued M1 22 service rifles are quite rare. I had one in my former collection. Looking back, I wish I had kept all the Springfield 22’s I had. Some were very scarce. Big Larry

  

Scarce doesn’t make it less ugly!  Even Clark Campbell called it that, in so many words.  But if you intend acquiring every variation…

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Chuck said
I don’t understand why an Import mark lessens the value of a gun?  All it means is that the gun stayed over seas after the war and was later brought back to the US.  

What, are you demanding logic be applied to collector valuations???  Gun might have an interesting story to tell if its service history could be traced.  Could have been used by almost any of the European forces allied against Germany. 

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Exactly.

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