Avatar
Search
Forum Scope




Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
Lost password?
sp_Feed sp_PrintTopic sp_TopicIcon
Model 12 with flaming bomb cartouche
Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 10
Member Since:
December 17, 2020
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
1
April 18, 2025 - 3:49 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

I saw a 1922 model 12 2 pin rib trap gun wendsday that has the us and flaming bomb on reciever the serial numbers match on both halves of the gun did they ever use them as trainer gun to teach lead to tail gunners in the wars gun has 30 in full barrel never seen another like it before

Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 10
Member Since:
December 17, 2020
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
2
April 18, 2025 - 3:55 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

I will get pictures when I get back to buddy’s house of it

Avatar
Chuck
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 5817
Member Since:
March 31, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
3
April 18, 2025 - 5:49 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_EditHistory

Model 12’s were used in both WW I and WW II.  If your gun was made in 1922 that rules out WW I.  But, if still in inventory, it could have been used for training or in WW II.  At the beginning of WW II the Military needed arms and searched out civilian shot guns to be used for Military service.

Pictures will help.

Avatar
Bert H.
Kingston, WA
Admin
Forum Posts: 12886
Member Since:
April 15, 2005
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
4
April 18, 2025 - 5:53 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

[email protected] said
I saw a 1922 model 12 2 pin rib trap gun wendsday that has the us and flaming bomb on reciever the serial numbers match on both halves of the gun did they ever use them as trainer gun to teach lead to tail gunners in the wars gun has 30 in full barrel never seen another like it before  

The WW I guns were not ordnance marked, and they were Model 1912s.  When the U.S. military purchased the next batch of guns for WW II, the guns were rolled marked on the receiver underneath the ejection port.  You did not mention where on the receiver frame the gun in question is marked.

Bert

WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
High-walls-1-002-C-reduced2.jpg

Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 10
Member Since:
December 17, 2020
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
5
April 18, 2025 - 6:35 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

That’s where it is marked under the ejection port right side of reciever i will get pictures next time I am there

Avatar
Bert H.
Kingston, WA
Admin
Forum Posts: 12886
Member Since:
April 15, 2005
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
6
April 18, 2025 - 6:42 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

[email protected] said
That’s where it is marked under the ejection port right side of reciever i will get pictures next time I am there

  

The Model 12 was not marked in that location until the WW II production.  A 1922 production gun is way too early for that marking.  What is the serial number on the gun in question?

Bert

WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
High-walls-1-002-C-reduced2.jpg

Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 10
Member Since:
December 17, 2020
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
7
April 18, 2025 - 8:04 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

It was in the 270,000 -280,000 range can’t find what I wrote down going off my memory

Avatar
Bert H.
Kingston, WA
Admin
Forum Posts: 12886
Member Since:
April 15, 2005
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
8
April 18, 2025 - 8:32 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

[email protected] said
It was in the 270,000 -280,000 range can’t find what I wrote down going off my memory

That would put it in the September 1920 – March 1921 time period, and the ordnance markings on the receiver frame are extremely likely to be faked.

Bert

WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
High-walls-1-002-C-reduced2.jpg

Forum Timezone: UTC 0
Most Users Ever Online: 4623
Currently Online: wally, 86Win
Guest(s) 185
Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)
Top Posters:
clarence: 7119
TXGunNut: 6411
Chuck: 5817
steve004: 5175
1873man: 4700
deerhunter: 2696
Big Larry: 2550
twobit: 2494
mrcvs: 2195
Maverick: 2032
Newest Members:
longleke
js2inc
Timmy
Popsguns
Ernie Dyess
Noah Hutchens
clayboy702003
Sans Peur
Crucian66
Winchester 1892
Forum Stats:
Groups: 1
Forums: 18
Topics: 14731
Posts: 131740

 

Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 2057
Members: 9993
Moderators: 3
Admins: 4
Administrators: Mike Hager, Bert H., JWA, SethJ
Moderators: Rob Kassab, Brad Dunbar, Heather
Navigation