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March 21, 2011
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Buffalo Arms now has some popular obsolete ammunition available.
https://www.buffaloarms.com/ammunition.html
Darrin.
October 29, 2011
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Just looked at new additions on their site. They do not have 25-20SS, 32-40, 33WCF or 50-95-300 I have these available.with proper head stamp……….Bill
September 22, 2011
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What they are charging for ammunition makes me really glad I reload my own.
November 19, 2006
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mrcvs said
What they are charging for ammunition makes me really glad I reload my own.
I certainly agree with this. Loading our own can also help on the level of spending much less on brass. That is, making our own from much less expensive and much more available cases. For example, Buffalo Arms offers a box of 20 .219 Zipper cartridges for $115 (plus tax and shipping). .219 Zipper cases can be made from .30-30 brass – and then of course reloaded multiple times. Nearly all of the .33, .38-56 and .40-65 cases I load are reformed .45-70 cases.
November 7, 2015
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I’m glad Buffalo Arms is offering this ammo. Not everyone has the room, time or aptitude to load specialty ammunition. Collectors who only shoot occasionally are well served by this offering, IMHO. It looks like their ammo is handloaded and some of it may require special techniques or components. I think for quite a few collectors this may be a prudent and viable option. I haven’t seen or used their ammunition but suspect it is good quality. Specialty ammo isn’t cheap, good stuff will be significantly more than the stuff on the shelves at Walmart. When someone asks me how much it costs to load a given round of obsolete ammo I want to tell them what a recent inventory of my loading room revealed. A comprehensive loading setup will never save the average reloader any money but with proper supplies and equipment he will never again be dependent on an unreliable supply chain and most importantly he will get to shoot as much as he wants.
Mike
March 31, 2009
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TXGunNut said
A comprehensive loading setup will never save the average reloader any money but with proper supplies and equipment he will never again be dependent on an unreliable supply chain and most importantly he will get to shoot as much as he wants.
Mike
Well said Mike.
April 15, 2005
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For those that are interested, I still have 8,000 factory new primed 22 Hornet cases. Most of it is Winchester W-W SUPER brass. Send me a PM if interested. I can deliver it at the Cody Show if desired.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
August 14, 2021
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IDK, money can be saved, although not always, depends on what you are reloading. More importantly, some vintage arms just cannot be fired accurately with purchased ammo. For instance, I’ve been firing vintage Trapdoors, and you just cannot get 200 to 300 yard accuracy with the commercial ammo. For the most part it’s just not loaded properly for that rifle. You really need to study Mike Venturino’s (RIP) books, or if you want authentic military loads, Wolfe’s book.
November 7, 2015
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Steven Gabrielli said
IDK, money can be saved, although not always, depends on what you are reloading. More importantly, some vintage arms just cannot be fired accurately with purchased ammo. For instance, I’ve been firing vintage Trapdoors, and you just cannot get 200 to 300 yard accuracy with the commercial ammo. For the most part it’s just not loaded properly for that rifle. You really need to study Mike Venturino’s (RIP) books, or if you want authentic military loads, Wolfe’s book.
Good points, Steven. If we stuck to the bare minimum for equipment it is possible to make useable ammunition for a modest investment in hand tools that work much the same as the Winchester and Ideal tools of over 100 years ago. Measuring smokeless powder may be a bit tricky but not impossible. 200-300 yard accuracy is a tall order for many Trapdoors, mine would need a bedsheet for a target at 300 yards. I’m content to bang away at 50 yards. An accuracy load tuned to a given rifle will almost always outperform factory ammo but for a large percentage of rifles they seem to work reasonably well. Personally I enjoy reloading so will always prefer rolling my own, often casting the bullets as well. We need to understand that not every collector enjoys reloading as we do but they do enjoy shooting.
Mike
April 15, 2005
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All this talk about reloading has me wanting to go down to the Man Cave and open a can of GP to load a batch of 25-20 S.S. cartridges. I still have a bag full of 90-gr Cast GC bullets I can load, but I have to decide if I want to load them with Lil’Gun, or my old standby, IMR 4198! 
Bert
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November 7, 2015
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Bert H. said
All this talk about reloading has me wanting to go down to the Man Cave and open a can of GP to load a batch of 25-20 S.S. cartridges. I still have a bag full of 90-gr Cast GC bullets I can load, but I have to decide if I want to load them with Lil’Gun, or my old standby, IMR 4198!
Bert
I understand! I went in there to finish up a knife project and if I hadn’t had bread in the oven I’d probably still be there!
Mike
August 14, 2021
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“200-300 yard accuracy is a tall order for many Trapdoors, mine would need a bedsheet for a target at 300 yards. I’m content to bang away at 50 yards.”
Wow Mike! Any Trapdoor in serviceable condition can do better than 50 yards. 50 yards is what you’re gonna get if you buy off the shelf 45-70.
I cast my own ~520 grains homemade lube, around 16-1 I think, I’d have to check my notes, on top of 63 grains 2F, wad, slight crimp. All in the 7 ring on a standard 200 yard BPTR target.
I use the same load in my replica Sharps, but that has a mid-range tang target sight. That puts 10 rounds in the 9-10 ring.
I don’t shoot smokeless in those rifles.
November 7, 2015
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I like the way you think, Steven! I don’t see the supplied sights on my Trapdoor very well but I must agree that BP is the only way to go for these old rifles! Something about that “BOOM” and big cloud of smoke. This rifle has a very rough bore but the action is sound and shooting it always puts a smile on my face. I use FFg KIK or Swiss powder most of the time, under a wad and a 20-1 alloy SPG-lubed bullet from a Lyman 457193.
Mike
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