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New to the Winchester collecting and shooting oldies.
Trying to find a good load for my original standard sporting 1886 Winchester 45-90 ,26" barrel ,mfg .1894 .I have lyman 45-90 Winchester die set and bertram brass . Just wondering on powder and bullets? Any help is good thanks.
Bruce
Aim Small ,Miss Small
Bruce,
300-grain bullets, and 35-grains of IMR 4198 will give you a load that nearly duplicates the original factory load. I would scrap the Bertram brass the first chance you get to replace it with something better.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Bert
Thanks for info. Just wondering what are some of the problems with Bertram Brass?
Bruce
Aim Small ,Miss Small
Bertram brass has a lot of inconsistencies, e.g. length, diameter, rim diameter, rim thickness, primer pockets not centered, too deep, out of round, etc. etc. In general, Bertram brass is junk.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Amen to what Bert said. Starline makes nice 45-90 brass that I have used and enjoyed.
Thanks for heads up!
Hard to find Starline brass in Ontario, In smaller quantity.
Kirk, You live in this great province. Where did you get your Starline brass in 45-90?
Aim Small ,Miss Small
Are these troubles something new for Bertram brass?I have used .405 Berterm brass without any troubles.However this brass was purchased quite sometime ago.Maybe I was just lucky. 🙂
bhutch said
Thanks for heads up!Hard to find Starline brass in Ontario, In smaller quantity.
Kirk, You live in this great province. Where did you get your Starline brass in 45-90?
If I recall correctly, I got it from Buffalo Arms or Track of the Wolf. Here in Ontario you might try Ellwood Epps.
28 gauge said
Are these troubles something new for Bertram brass?I have used .405 Berterm brass without any troubles.However this brass was purchased quite sometime ago.Maybe I was just lucky. 🙂
You got lucky.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Bert H: I would scrap the Bertram brass the first chance you get to replace it with something better.
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/Stefan
Wondering if all have to use dacron filler or cotton filler with these large cartridge loads?
What is your guys experience?
Bruce
Aim Small ,Miss Small
I have tried dacron filler off and on through the years in large cases ,and still havent reached a definite decision ( slight noticeable accuracy benefit). It is controversial, as pressure may rise, perhaps not good in older guns
Since 4198 ignites quite easily and consistently, even in less than half full case , I would suggest to start without it
Cheers
Bruce, I used one sheet of single ply toilet paper loosely folded and rolled and then folded once more to keep the powder toward the back of the case. Probably my best load was 34 grains of IMR 4198 under a 330 grain Gould bullet for 1,562 fps, using a Magnum Winchester Primer and no filler. If you are going to use filler, you will need to reduce your load.
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