November 7, 2015
OfflineIMR, may be good idea to buy a newer manual to have current data for modern powders. Don’t toss the old manual, they’re great for reference!
Mike
February 11, 2026
OfflineThank you,
I do have newer manuals however it only shows 200 gr and 220 gr. I bought and old manual because .348 had 150 and 180 loadings and was hoping to find them. I have orig 180gr speers and bidding on some 150gr. I found some online for 180gr but just wanted to clarify the manual. Old books are great to have for this reason on obsolete cartridges.
March 31, 2009
OfflineI’m positive the old manuals were talking about IMR powders. Now that Hodgdon owns IMR we may be forced to use the H powders. In most cases you can use the H instead of the IMR but I would recommend to start low and working up. Powders that are close in burn rates don’t always produce the same pressures. Burn rate is just that, how fast it burns.
November 7, 2015
OfflineI have a few older manuals, namely a 45th edition Lyman and a Mattern manual. The rest are less than 50 years old. I have some 200gr Hornady bullets occupying valuable real estate at the moment if you’re interested. I get nervous trying to compare IMR, Hodgdon and Accurate powders. Seems each number (eg 4350) is a rule unto itself so Chuck’s advice of starting low is prudent. It’s an old rule, gets better with age.
Mike
April 3, 2018
OfflineThe 150 gr loading by W-W was discontinued due to low SD and rapidly losing velocity. Winchester could have improved the ballistics by 175-225-250 gr loadings. Peters developed an excellent 210 gr bullet that was Inner-Belted to hang togethether. IMR 4350 is the best powder for 225 gr Hawk or 250 gr bullets in the .348. Newer powders producing higher velocity such as the H/Alliant CFE 223 powder do the business. Higher velocity with reduced pressure. Velocities of 250 gr bullets in the 35 Whelen have reached over 2600 fps. I have used CFE 223 and it works. Hawk, Fury. Woodleigh or hard to find Swift are current bullets. I still have some Hornady 200 gr FPs, discontinued-but a good bullet. I do not care for cast bullets in the 348. Gas checks in BN cases are tricky.
The Model 71 is not a bolt action, so pressure indicators are important. IMR 4350 and CFE 223 are my choices for the 250 gr jacketed bullet in the .348 WCF Model 71.
November 7, 2015
OfflineIf you have access to a Waters manual he lists loads for the 180gr bullets using RL-7, IMR-3031, IMR-4350 and H-4831. He was using the Speer FNSP bullet.
Mike
February 13, 2026
OfflineGood day!
New member here. am hoping to hear from any serious Winchester 71/348 Winchester 71 shooters in this community. I use one of my Winchester 71s every year for spring bear hunting (opens here April1st
. I pack a 71 every time I go to my hunting cabin, truck camping or fishing/camping.
I shoot reloads with the old Hornady 200gr bullets and Barnes X bullets. I play with cast bullet loads (255grGC).In my hands my factory ao is no where as accurate as my reloads, so I shoot factory n each of my 71s only to verify where they hit and velocity. By the way all my loads run at 2400fps or so.
I would be interested if anyone is getting velocities of 2500fps with factory or reloaded 200gr bullets. I have not seen that with any of my Winchester 71 or Browning 71 rifles.
I am up to 4 resizings with my current loads with no brass loss. I do not have an annealer and don’t anneal.Seriously considering getting an annealer after loading a batch of old brass a buddy annealed for me. I could feel a difference in sizing (smoother and more consistent). Accuracy was a bit better, caveats rifles all have receiver sights, eyeballs 7 decades old, and my accuracy potential wth iron sights is impacted by sunlight situation.
So no more “I”s, love to hear from folks who hunt with, shoot, and reload 348Winchester/Winchester 71s.
Cheers!
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