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Steven Gabrielli said
That thumb trigger model ain’t easy to find either Boss.

  

Because Winchester dumped most of them out hear downunder.

1badf350 said

Bert H. said

1badf350 said
Sorry to bump an old thread but can you tell me what is meant by “thumb trigger” ?
  

Watch this video… Bing Videos
Thumb Trigger at cock…
 
Bert
  

Thanks Bert it doesn’t appear that mine has that. I got confused by the posts talking about it and thought it was in reference to my rifle 
  

Bert’s video that he put in place for us, explains the Thumb trigger, also referred to as the Model-99, very well, for those that wasn’t aware of how they operate. If you thought you’re Model 1900, that was mfg. 1900-1902, was anything like the 1900, where the early examples had the ‘Winchester Embossed Butt”, as many here have suggester, as the later examples were void of this. There’s no similarity from the “Thumb Trigger”,(mfg. 1904-1923), model to any other .22 caliber Winchester rifle. All of the other .22 caliber rifles has a Trigger guard under the stock, to protect the more common trigger, found underneath on most firearms.

Tony. R said

Steven Gabrielli said
That thumb trigger model ain’t easy to find either Boss.
  

Because Winchester dumped most of them out hear downunder.
  

Steven,

I agree with you as they are hard to find, and when one is found in nice original condition, they usually command a premium!

Tony R.

I didn’t realize they we’re dumped down under! Thanks for that!

Anthony

F350. Did you sell your rifle?

regarding my model 58: The barrel is stamped “MADE IN U. S. A. WINCHESTER REPEATING ARMS CO. —MODEL 58 — 22 SHORT—- WINCHESTER—

                                                                    NEW HAVEN CONN. PATENTED AUGUST 29, 1898, — LONG AND LONG RIFLE— TRADE MARK—

      It also has PW in oval at breech. The rifling is thin but no pitting (per my old eyes) 

Is that standard stamping on old guns? Don

I was taught how to shoot (more than sixty years ago) with a Winchester Model 58 that my dad had purchased, because it reminded him of the Winchester 1902 rifle with which his grandfather taught him to shoot, back in the 1930’s.  Sadly, I let that Model 58 go when other, more pressing financial matters came up. It was a rare model in exceptionally fine condition.  I still remember that little rifle fondly.

BRP

As a follow up, I finally got around to getting this one out, as I was moving some things around. Just for the conversation sake of a hard to find M-1900, and the embossed butt with “Winchester”, on it. I wanted to show the “Embossed Winchester Logo”, on the Butt!

It’s pretty obvious that the gum wood stock, looks to have been refreshed. The collection that it came out of several years ago didn’t have one refinished .22 caliber rifle in it. This one had been looked at by many, years ago, as I still wonder. Even the Embossed, “Winchester”, Logo that looks to have some darker chocolate color to it, has had me perplexed for a long while. It’s still a nice example, and the only one that I kept, out of the few that I acquired, years ago, in collections obtained.The others were all extremely used and worn out.

The Bore is shiny and clean on it, as it’s hard to really tell the twist rate on it. The blue on the barrel is starting to get a deep patina Hugh to it, as it looks nice.

Now, in further examining, and in removing the barrel in the natural light. It’s very evident, that this rifle has been refinished, years ago, as the vise like dimple marks, are very evident, and obvious in the hidden areas, of the stock.With the barrel removed, the in-letting on the Gum Wood stock has it’s normal appearance, but there’s remnants of some shiny gloss finish spilled along the edges of the inside part of the stock. Even some pitting is exposed near the front of the barrel, and covered in old style bluing. IMO!

So rather to “Caution on the side of error”, I would much rather say that this gun looks refinished to me! As it absolutely has been!!! IMHO!

JWA said
Yes, that appears to be a 1st variation (early) Winchester Model 1900, the first variation was not marked with a model number for some reason, the second variations (2a and 2b) were marked “MODEL 1900 / 22 SHORT & LONG” after the address and patent roll marking.
Best Regards,
  

JWA said
The first variation Model 1900’s were marked like this and only had 22 Short Long marked at the breech:
MANUFACTURED BY THE WINCHESTER REPEATING ARMS CO.                                        
NEW HAVEN CONN. U.S.A. PAT. AUG. 29, 1899.
 
Best Regards,
  

According to JWA, it looks like a second variation, (2a or a 2b).  I did nor know or realize this. Thanks, Jeff!

Tony