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September 10, 2025 - 7:21 pm
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I have a 20X Lyman Super Target Spot on one of my 52’s.  Works great.  But, it bugs me a little that I have a 60’s vintage scope on a 1930’s rifle.  It came with the rifle. 
  

A 20X Fecker will fix that problem nicely.  I like my Fecker scopes as much as the Lyman STS and they are period correct.
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I’ll keep that in mind.  I have a 15X Unertl on my other 30’s 52.  The one with the heavy barrel.  Not really sure how old this one is?

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Get in touch with SEEWIN. To get closer to the year of your M52, may I suggest a Lyman Targetspot, or a Lyman  5-A? Both 30’s scopes. Feckers are great, and I have had several, but info on them and especially DOM are not available.   Big Larry

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September 10, 2025 - 7:55 pm
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I think this will work, actually removed a bit more material than I needed to. Forgot to take a pic when I test fit things, phones not normally allowed in the room where the magic happens.

 

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I think this will work, Looks good enough for the girls I go with.😉

 

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I will add that NO original Winchester parts were modified or otherwise molested during the adaptation of this SHOOTER M75!

Range report forthcoming.

 

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Range report, of sorts. It was a beautiful day for Rimfire therapy and Zebulon’s .22’s were VERY distracting. I did manage to sight in my 75 Target after the stock mod and centering the modern Lyman 17 TCR (very tall) front sight. I’m reluctant to post a pic because I know I and the rifle are capable of a better group, this group actually includes a sight adjustment. I’m just glad I was able to make this modification work on this shooter Winchester. Spending a beautiful day on the range with Zeb was the highlight of a difficult day, someday I’ll buckle down and shoot a group (hopefully) that comes closer to showing what this rifle will do but today was NOT that day. 
I do have plans to scope one or more of my target rifles someday but I’m gonna have fun with these old iron sights as long as I can, maybe longer.

 

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Mike,

Don’t beat yourself up, that is a GREAT group for 200 yards.

There are a few things to check on the rifle, including properly adjusting the barrel tension band among others to wring the best out of the 75.

What ammo were you using?  The 75 is somewhat picky.

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Thanks, Jeff-

I was using Norma Match for this FIFTY YARD session, 😁 it typically exhibits occasional vertical stringing but the vertical (pic is rotated 90 degrees) spread is due to a final sight adjustment. I’ll take credit for the flyer, I was enjoying myself a bit too much. Trigger on this 75 is quite good, not on the same level as my 52C (thanks Seewin!) but more than adequate. I’ll double check that tension screw, Last three shots into a cluster was very encouraging but probably not repeatable. I’m thinking I may open up the rear sight aperture a bit to reduce eye strain. Thanks to the trigger time and experimenting with front sight inserts my groups are getting a bit better. I keep telling y’all I’m not much of a rifle shooter, I can shoot bug hole groups with a bench rest .22 but this 75 is more fun and challenging. As I learned from your new book the 75 was designed to help improve marksmanship and it certainly is up to the task.

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Keep up the good work. Your groups are getting smaller, but remember, it’s a M75, not a M52. A M75 may not be capable of 1/2″ groups at 50 yards. When shooting my M52’s, I always shot at 100 yards using a scope. Got good enough to hit a dime at 100 yards, and my groups could be covered with a dime. I have a nice 20X STS that was a gift from a friend. Works great on my M52’s. I haven’t been shooting since I had my Cataract surgery, so I see much better now. Maybe I should try iron sights. Good luck with your M75.   Big Larry

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Big Larry,  I’ve taken note of your various shot groups in the past and can say you DO know how to shoot!  Plus match up with good equipment.  Tim

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Big Larry said
Keep up the good work. Your groups are getting smaller, but remember, it’s a M75, not a M52. A M75 may not be capable of 1/2″ groups at 50 yards. When shooting my M52’s, I always shot at 100 yards using a scope. Got good enough to hit a dime at 100 yards, and my groups could be covered with a dime. I have a nice 20X STS that was a gift from a friend. Works great on my M52’s. I haven’t been shooting since I had my Cataract surgery, so I see much better now. Maybe I should try iron sights. Good luck with your M75.   Big Larry
  

Thanks for the encouragement, Big Larry. I hope you’ll be able to get back to iron sights. I know I enjoy them. Trigger time with my 75’s (and 52) helps me shoot better with my centerfire Winchesters, a few of them wear receiver or tang sights and seem to have significant accuracy potential. My 38-55 project got a boost when I unscrewed that big rear sight disc with the tiny aperture and screwed in a smaller sight with a bigger aperture. It’s actually a bit too big for target work but it’s convinced me to open up one of my spare rear sights a bit on my drill press. The 22’s are a lot more fun but a challenge to cast and reload for. 

 

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tim tomlinson said
Big Larry,  I’ve taken note of your various shot groups in the past and can say you DO know how to shoot!  Plus match up with good equipment.  Tim
  

Thanks Tim. My Dad was a shooting instructor in the Marine Corps,and I was taught to shoot at an early age. As for match ups, I am a collector and strive to get as close to original as possible. 2nd best just will not work for me.   Thanks, Big Larry

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Seems the operation was a success, the larger rear aperture gives me a nice sight picture with daylight around the front sight hood and the larger front aperture insert combined with the larger rear aperture lets me see the target a bit better! Unfortunately my eyes only cooperated for a few rounds, I guess it’s time for new glasses.

Thought I had too much of a good thing when I switched over to my Lyman receiver sighted 1895. I’d forgotten about the flip up rear aperture, was trying to figure out why the rear sight wasn’t threaded for a rear aperture disc when I discovered the rear aperture insert safely folded down against the top of the sight. Embarassed Decided I better tell this story on myself before Jeremy P had some fun with it. We had a good laugh, too funny not to share! These old iron sights are clever little gadgets and work very well if we’ll take the time to learn how to use them. The workmanship is evident in the well-preserved examples. 

 

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