Bought a nice 60’s vintage S&W M41 5 1/2′ HB for a little less than I have been paying for nice M1906’s. Had it’s correct numbered to the pistol box, and all it’s original tools. Missing all paperwork. Two original magazines too. Much easier to find than a nice M1906. I will still be looking for a two tone Deluxe. It has to be a nice one with an original bbl. that is not shot out. Big Larry
Had one of those with the longer brl. Always had problem of fired cases hanging up under barrel extension. Brand of ammo made no diff. Got rid of it for that reason.
Not surprised this cost less than 1906, because they were shot to pieces, but 41s were usually handled carefully.
Congrats Larry,
The only thing nice I can say about S&W’s is they take up less room in the safe than Winchesters…. 😉
Post some pics when you get a nice S&W 320, that one interests me.
Best Regards,
WACA Life Member #6284 - Specializing in Pre-64 Winchester .22 Rimfire
November 7, 2015

Big Larry-
No need to keep buying more when you have some of the nicest ones we’ve seen in awhile. Enjoy! Are the Smiths still going up? Seems like some were pulled along by the Colt snake gun craze a few years ago.
Mike
TXGunNut said
Big Larry-No need to keep buying more when you have some of the nicest ones we’ve seen in awhile. Enjoy! Are the Smiths still going up? Seems like some were pulled along by the Colt snake gun craze a few years ago.
Mike
Mike, I don’t see any Smiths having large increases, except maybe the Registered magnums. Seems to me the prices are pretty flat. A nice RM with a pedigree will bring $6,000 to well over $10,000. Not in the same boat as a One of One Thousand. I have near 100 S&W’s of all types and they are not increasing in value much. Same for my Winchesters. I’m not in this for the $$$, just like collecting what I see and like. I have had my snake guns and retain one 1967 vintage Python and a couple others. Big Larry
November 7, 2015

Big Larry-
Agreed, dramatic price increases don’t benefit the true collector. I heard about RM’s when I first started shooting S&W’s in competition, never knew what they really were until I started collecting Winchesters. Never warmed up to the Python or other snake guns but a couple of old timers I shot with, Reeves Jungkind and Dwight Crawford, shot little else. Reeves is gone now, Dwight (@ 80+) can probably outshoot me.
Mike
November 7, 2015

Big Larry said
My Dad shot with many notables back in the early 50’s. Col. Walter Walsh, Lt. Col. Bill Mc Millan, both Olympic winners, and a host of the most famous shooters of the time. Dad was no slouch, he won gold at the USMC Pistol matches in 1952. He was #1. Big Larry
Being #1 in that crowd is no small thing. One of the best things about competing on a high level is meeting some truly talented and gifted shooters. A shooter can learn a lot in that environment, in my case I learned to recognize a really good shooter….and I’m not one of them!
Mike
TXGunNut said
Big Larry said
My Dad shot with many notables back in the early 50’s. Col. Walter Walsh, Lt. Col. Bill Mc Millan, both Olympic winners, and a host of the most famous shooters of the time. Dad was no slouch, he won gold at the USMC Pistol matches in 1952. He was #1. Big Larry
Being #1 in that crowd is no small thing. One of the best things about competing on a high level is meeting some truly talented and gifted shooters. A shooter can learn a lot in that environment, in my case I learned to recognize a really good shooter….and I’m not one of them!
Mike
In my day, I used to be a good shot. Rifle and pistol. Not like my Dad, he was a Master Class shooter. This Neuropathy has killed off my ability to shoot. Cannot feel my hands. So, I just sit back and collect what I see and like. I like to share my stuff too. Big Larry
Big Larry said This Neuropathy has killed off my ability to shoot. Cannot feel my hands. So, I just sit back and collect what I see and like. I like to share my stuff too. Big Larry
Sure hate to hear that, Larry. Well, it can always be worse–of the friends I had only about 20 yrs ago, only one is left standing, in part because he’s several yrs younger. But nothing wrong with collecting, which I’ve had to stop because I’m worried about disposing of what I’ve already got; & that ain’t much either.
clarence said
Big Larry said This Neuropathy has killed off my ability to shoot. Cannot feel my hands. So, I just sit back and collect what I see and like. I like to share my stuff too. Big Larry
Sure hate to hear that, Larry. Well, it can always be worse–of the friends I had only about 20 yrs ago, only one is left standing, in part because he’s several yrs younger. But nothing wrong with collecting, which I’ve had to stop because I’m worried about disposing of what I’ve already got; & that ain’t much either.
Recently, I gave a bunch of guns to some relatives. Sold a few too. I still have about 180 guns. I’ll let my people fight over them when I pass. Truck and 2 4 wheelers and a paid up, house. Big Larry
November 7, 2015

Big Larry-
Did your dad shoot both rifle and pistol?
Mike
TXGunNut said
Big Larry-Did your dad shoot both rifle and pistol?
Mike
He got his 1st. leg with a rifle, and was told by his coach to forget the rifle and concentrate on the pistol. Distinguished with the pistol in 1952, and also won the gold medal for the 5 man team in 1952. Same year he won the Marine Corps matches. I have all his medals in a custom made shadow box in my safe. As for the rifle, in 20 years, he never fell below Expert Rifleman. In the 50’s, he shot in a 1,000 yard match, and with a Garand, he out “V”d the worlds champion. I cannot remember his name. I have the newspaper article.
My Dad could pick up anything that fired and shoot Expert with it including the 5″ gun on his ship, the USS Vincennes on which he was part of the Marine detachment. Big Larry
November 7, 2015

Big Larry-
Your dad would have liked this 41, I shot Outdoor Pistol (Bullseye) in the off-season a few decades back and some of the old timers shot the 41.
Mike
TXGunNut said
Big Larry-Your dad would have liked this 41, I shot Outdoor Pistol (Bullseye) in the off-season a few decades back and some of the old timers shot the 41.
Mike
As far as I can remember, the Marines used High Standards. He also used a HS qualifying for the 1952 Olympics. He was #2. Got outshot my a civilian. Then, for some unknown reason, the Marine Corps, would not let him shoot in the Olympics. Politics my Mom said. Then they shipped him off to the Korean War. Just made M/Sgt., he was a First Sgt. in Korea in charge of a machine gun Co. Spent his last years teaching Marines how to shoot. Had his own range #213 on Camp Pendleton. I went to work with him often in the Summer. Got caught once. Big Larry
Big Larry said I went to work with him often in the Summer. Got caught once. Big Larry
How I envy that experience! Everything I know about shooting I had to learn by myself, though my father gave me his old Model 24 Rem with the admonition “be careful & don’t kill anything you don’t intend to eat”; that was pretty much it for instructions.
clarence said
Big Larry said I went to work with him often in the Summer. Got caught once. Big Larry
How I envy that experience! Everything I know about shooting I had to learn by myself, though my father gave me his old Model 24 Rem with the admonition “be careful & don’t kill anything you don’t intend to eat”; that was pretty much it for instructions.
My Dad bought me my first rifle at 12. A Springfield M1903. My 2nd rifle at 13. A Remington 513T. I still have them both. He made me wait until I was 21 for a handgun. A 1906 vintage Colt SAA 45, shipped to the Copper Queen Mine. I still have that one as well. Later years he gave me his 1949 vintage Woodsman and Belgian Browning 25ACP he took off a dead Japanese in Okinawa. My Dad always took me shooting when I asked. He must have instilled gun safety in me. I am 80 and have never shot anyone. Big Larry
November 7, 2015

Big Larry-
I suppose I was wrong (again) but I agree with your dad’s fondness for the Woodsman. I sold a nice one a few years ago when I decided to focus on Winchesters. I still think he would like your 41. Never could find a High Standard for a match gun when I had the money, lol. My .22 for Pistol was a lowly Ruger MKI bull barrel but it thought Winchester Wildcat was target ammo and it pulled me and my .45 up a class or two. That’s fortunate, I couldn’t afford match ammo. I shot my Series 70 Colt (customized for IPSC) duty gun and store bought cast bullets for CF and .45 but it would barely hold the black as it had the factory Colt barrel and Series 70 bushing. I slipped into the low end of Expert class IIRC and the experience gave me off season trigger time as well as keeping me sharp with my duty gun. Besides, I could only afford a few comp guns and my first love was PPC. Just remembered I would often shoot a match on Saturday morning, take a nap, wipe the soot off my duty gun, load it up with duty ammo and work a shift for the PD that night. ?
Those Bullseye shooters I shot with were pretty awesome, learned a lot from them. Every now and then I’ll stick my left hand in my pocket and put five in the black @25 with that old Ruger. Nowadays I gotta use target ammo, it doesn’t like Wildcat any more.
Thanks for the memories, Big Larry. Your dad made me think of Billy Taggert. Billy was a Marine team shooter (WWII vet) who mentored the Ft Worth PD pistol team and anyone else who was smart enough to listen. He was a colorful coach and I’m sure FWPD hasn’t forgotten him, even tho his favorite student retired years ago.
With apologies to Winchester collectors, at least I was using Winchester ammo and loading my 45’s with 231 powder and WLP primers.
Mike
1 Guest(s)
