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Pre-A Model 52 for Lyman Scope
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Ha! I didn’t even notice the switch-er-roo!  Thanks both for your expertise in these classic American arms.  

Now according to Seewin, the Lyman Targetspot I have is a 1934, so that will go nicely on a 1932 Win 52, I think.  Will post pics of the setup as soon as I can get it.  Should be a nice Christmas present.  

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JWA said

No worries, I am sure Clarence was doing it but the Houze book was sitting on my desk so I beat him to it.

Best Regards,  

If you’ve spent much time with that book, you know there’s room for improvement; for ex., an index worthy of the name would be nice.  Mine is so marked up with underlining & arrows, it looks like some kindergarten kid got hold of it; but that’s what’s necessary to locate references to changes in construction & markings.  The many pages of company memos are more distracting than useful.  Many questions I have aren’t even addressed.  And of course it’s OP & commanding big bucks. 

With what you’ve learned about the company from your Model 69 research, I’d say you’ve got a head-start on a fresh look at the 52.

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clarence said

If you’ve spent much time with that book, you know there’s room for improvement; for ex., an index worthy of the name would be nice.  Mine is so marked up with underlining & arrows, it looks like some kindergarten kid got hold of it; but that’s what’s necessary to locate references to changes in construction & markings.  The many pages of company memos are more distracting than useful.  Many questions I have aren’t even addressed.  And of course it’s OP & commanding big bucks. 

With what you’ve learned about the company from your Model 69 research, I’d say you’ve got a head-start on a fresh look at the 52.  

I agree about Houze’s 52 book, mine is full of post-it notes since I can’t bring myself to mark-up a $250+ book.  Yes, I have thought about a new book on the 52 and roughed out an initial outline but it would be a 700-800 page book to cover everything I consider necessary.  I am very appreciative of Houze and his initial work but there is MUCH to be added and a few corrections to be made.

After gathering initial info for the 52 book project I chickened-out and already started the next book on a different Winchester bolt action .22 model instead.  The 52 is still on my “to-do” list but it will take quite awhile to do it right (and lots of help).

I hope the Model 69 book index meets your approval and please let me know if you find any errors or omissions in the book so I can correct them in the 2nd edition.  

 

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JWA said I agree about Houze’s 52 book, mine is full of post-it notes since I can’t bring myself to mark-up a $250+ book.
 

Whoever eventually finds my copy at the Goodwill priced $2 probably won’t mind my markings too very much.

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clarence said Whoever eventually finds my copy at the Goodwill priced $2 probably won’t mind my markings too very much.  

Good point!

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clarence said

JWA said I agree about Houze’s 52 book, mine is full of post-it notes since I can’t bring myself to mark-up a $250+ book.
 

Whoever eventually finds my copy at the Goodwill priced $2 probably won’t mind my markings too very much.  

Clarence, I was able to buy Jim Gordon’s 2 volume set on the 1873 for $250 because of the notes and such.  I don’t like it but for reference it surely works for me and I saved about $300.

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Chuck said

Clarence, I was able to buy Jim Gordon’s 2 volume set on the 1873 for $250 because of the notes and such.  I don’t like it but for reference it surely works for me and I saved about $300.  

I’d have done the same, esp. if the notes looked like they were written by someone who really knew the subject.  I think my notes enhance the 52 book, make it easier to find scattered information (esp since this book has no real index), but of course it downgrades value greatly.  I won’t be around to worry about that, however.

When Wolfe reprinted Dr. Mann’s “The Bullet’s Flight,” they could have found a mint copy to use for this purpose, but instead used Pope’s personal copy, filled with his notes!

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clarence said

When Wolfe reprinted Dr. Mann’s “The Bullet’s Flight,” they could have found a mint copy to use for this purpose, but instead used Pope’s personal copy, filled with his notes!  

That’s cool.  The only thing Pope that I have is the fact that he was involved with the barrel manufacture of my Newton.  This style rifling caused me problems until a bench rest shooter told me to quit using boat tail bullets.  This elliptical rifling needs more straight wall to grip on.  Flat based bullets work fine with the heavier grain bullets.

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I finally got it this morning, Christmas Eve.  I’m happy with it’s condition, and that the scope mounts fit it fine.  Other than the buttplate, and some normal receiver flaking, it’s in quite good condition for a 1930s gun.  Cleaned and test fired an empty case in the yard, ready to go!

 

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And it shot pretty good.

 

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I’ve got a 1934 M52.  It needs a rear sight and magazine release button.  Came with a Unertl scope mounted.  Its looks really good.  I was surprised at the blueing.

Wonder where I can get a mag button and rear sight?  I’ve not shot it yet.  

BTW, the gun came with a Mossberg 144 , a really nice shooting rifle.

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