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August 12, 2021
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purchased a nice model 61 ser#64xxx Was told by the dealer it would slam fire. After getting home tried it out and it does slam fire.Is this normal ?
April 30, 2023
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Most definitely not normal. Sounds like a weak or missing part in the trigger group. See a gunsmith if you have no experience with repairs of that nature.
January 20, 2023
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Several possibilities:
1. Firing pin is not retracting.
2. Hammer jars off the sear when breech is closed vigorously. (The Model 61 is not really hammerless.)
3.Sear is damaged or somebody has attempted a “trigger job.”
4. Other possibilities beyond my ken. You definitely need a gunsmith for the repair.
Query: As the bolt moves forward to strip off a round from the lifter, is the firing pin proud of the bolt face?
Does the rifle fire every time you close the bolt on a round? Or only if you slam the bolt hard?
- Bill
WACA # 65205; life member, NRA; member, TGCA; member, TSRA; amateur preservationist
"I have seen wicked men and fools, a great many of both, and I believe they both get paid in the end, but the fools first." -- David Balfour, narrator and protagonist of the novel, Kidnapped, by Robert Louis Stevenson.
November 19, 2006
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Gary Silvernell said
purchased a nice model 61 ser#64xxx Was told by the dealer it would slam fire. After getting home tried it out and it does slam fire.Is this normal ?
So, just to clarify, are you depressing the trigger when you cycle the action? I know my Winchester M1897 and Colt Lightning slide action rifles will slam fire when the trigger is held down during the cycling. I’ve never tried it on a M61.
August 27, 2014
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steve004 said
Gary Silvernell said
purchased a nice model 61 ser#64xxx Was told by the dealer it would slam fire. After getting home tried it out and it does slam fire.Is this normal ?
So, just to clarify, are you depressing the trigger when you cycle the action? I know my Winchester M1897 and Colt Lightning slide action rifles will slam fire when the trigger is held down during the cycling. I’ve never tried it on a M61.
That’s what I was going to ask
Holding the trigger back or finger off the trigger?
“If you can’t convince them, confuse them”
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January 20, 2023
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Gary says it slam fires only if you hold the trigger back, like a Model 97 trench gun.
The first question is whether his Model 61 has a trigger disconnector. Did all of that model have them?
- Bill
WACA # 65205; life member, NRA; member, TGCA; member, TSRA; amateur preservationist
"I have seen wicked men and fools, a great many of both, and I believe they both get paid in the end, but the fools first." -- David Balfour, narrator and protagonist of the novel, Kidnapped, by Robert Louis Stevenson.
January 20, 2023
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Well, I can’t vouch for this but Grok swears by all it holds to be Holy that the Model 61 does not have a trigger disconnector and can be slam fired by holding the trigger back – although it is very hard on the sear.
Somebody on the Rimfire Central forum said the same thing, which is probably where Grok got it.
If I can dig Schwing Volume 2 out of storage, surely Ned would have set the fact out.
- Bill
WACA # 65205; life member, NRA; member, TGCA; member, TSRA; amateur preservationist
"I have seen wicked men and fools, a great many of both, and I believe they both get paid in the end, but the fools first." -- David Balfour, narrator and protagonist of the novel, Kidnapped, by Robert Louis Stevenson.
August 8, 2024
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I have never tried it. But, I have read, and been told that the Model 61 will slam fire when you hold the trigger back while pumping the action.
December 9, 2002
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Bo,
That is true, as my late Gunsmith, father in law, demonstrated it at our family farm/hunt property in PA several years ago, and I’m pretty sure, he claimed the M-61 would do that with a worn sear. I don’t think he did anything to make it do that on it’s own as I remember him holding the trigger down, while he pumped the action, many years ago.
Anthony
January 20, 2023
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Emphasizing that I’m no gunsmith, I had thought the disconnector was a spring loaded lever or pin that blocked the sear until the trigger was released and returned to its pre-firing position, after which the sear would continue in the hammer notch under pressure from the reset trigger until the trigger was pulled again.
I’d appreciate any enlightenment.
- Bill
WACA # 65205; life member, NRA; member, TGCA; member, TSRA; amateur preservationist
"I have seen wicked men and fools, a great many of both, and I believe they both get paid in the end, but the fools first." -- David Balfour, narrator and protagonist of the novel, Kidnapped, by Robert Louis Stevenson.
January 20, 2023
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I am determined to know of my own knowledge whether the Model 61 ever had a disconnector mechanism or whether it was only added to the Magnum. And what it looks like.
Will report as events warrant. Stand by.
- Bill
WACA # 65205; life member, NRA; member, TGCA; member, TSRA; amateur preservationist
"I have seen wicked men and fools, a great many of both, and I believe they both get paid in the end, but the fools first." -- David Balfour, narrator and protagonist of the novel, Kidnapped, by Robert Louis Stevenson.
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