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April 30, 2023
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Hello everyone, I’m looking for barrel diameter measurements (in mm) for a Model 67 Boy’s rifle with the 20″ barrel. If you have one handy, could you give me the barrel diameter both at the muzzle and right at the end of the stock?
Thanks! JP
January 20, 2023
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I don’t have one handy but my son has it. If he’s got a dial indicator, I can ask him. How critical is the measurement you need? If he has to string measure circumference, would the nearest 1/8″ be sufficiently accurate?
- Bill
WACA # 65205; life member, NRA; member, TGCA; member, TSRA; amateur preservationist
"I have seen wicked men and fools, a great many of both, and I believe they both get paid in the end, but the fools first." -- David Balfour, narrator and protagonist of the novel, Kidnapped, by Robert Louis Stevenson.
April 30, 2023
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Zebulon said
I don’t have one handy but my son has it. If he’s got a dial indicator, I can ask him. How critical is the measurement you need? If he has to string measure circumference, would the nearest 1/8″ be sufficiently accurate?
That should be good, yes, and thanks!
November 7, 2015
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Wish I could help, mine is TDY’d 309 miles from here. Will check to see it he has a dial caliper.
Mike
January 20, 2023
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Jeremy, Ive emailed my son (just now) and haven’t gotten an acknowledgement yet. Probably sitting down to dinner – two hours behind us.
I’ll let you know as soon as I have useful.information.
- Bill
WACA # 65205; life member, NRA; member, TGCA; member, TSRA; amateur preservationist
"I have seen wicked men and fools, a great many of both, and I believe they both get paid in the end, but the fools first." -- David Balfour, narrator and protagonist of the novel, Kidnapped, by Robert Louis Stevenson.
January 7, 2014
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Jeremy,
A quick check with my electronic Digital Caliper.
Muzzle–16.23+or- .01mm
End of stock–17.73+or-.01mm
My caliper was getting low on battery but these measurements should be close.
Maybe someone else will jump in with a reading.
Dick
April 30, 2023
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Win61 said
Jeremy,
A quick check with my electronic Digital Caliper.
Muzzle–16.23+or- .01mm
End of stock–17.73+or-.01mm
My caliper was getting low on battery but these measurements should be close.
Maybe someone else will jump in with a reading.
Dick
That’s perfect, thank you sir!
January 20, 2023
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Young son is traveling. I’d go with win61’s readings. Are you rebarreling?
- Bill
WACA # 65205; life member, NRA; member, TGCA; member, TSRA; amateur preservationist
"I have seen wicked men and fools, a great many of both, and I believe they both get paid in the end, but the fools first." -- David Balfour, narrator and protagonist of the novel, Kidnapped, by Robert Louis Stevenson.
April 30, 2023
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Zebulon said
Young son is traveling. I’d go with win61’s readings. Are you rebarreling?
No, trying to solve a mystery of my boy’s rifle example, it has a weird “turning” in between those two areas I mention where it looks like someone turned it on a lathe…like an inverse bulge so to speak. Can’t figure out how that would have happened…I don’t believe it to be refinished but could be wrong.
December 9, 2002
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Jeremy,
We would love to see some pictures if possible of what you’re referring to!
Anthony
April 30, 2023
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Anthony said
Jeremy,
We would love to see some pictures if possible of what you’re referring to!
Anthony
I will try to do that! It was an auction pick up, went for cheap but gun overall was in really nice condition. Auction listing said it had a “irregular turning mark” on the barrel, something I couldn’t see in the two not-so-great photos. Took a chance for very little cost, really.
Shoots fine, dead on where it should be. I figure it was damage of some sort and not a lathe turning because the opposite side of the barrel does not have the same “depression”… Problem is, I can’t imagine what would have caused damage like that. I’ll have to experiment because capturing it in a good photo might not be easy! You have to run your fingers down it to feel it. Stay tuned…
So far though, everyone’s measurements are very close to mine at the muzzle and at the forend.
April 30, 2023
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Here you go Anthony…I got it to show up in pics pretty good. In one of the pics at least you can see the depression or hourglass shape contour of the barrel. Also present is two parallel lines that look like a scratch. It does feel slightly indented on opposite side. I don’t think something falling on it could create this but yet, I don’t understand why you would lathe or turn down this section if that is truly what happened…it’s almost like someone clamped something around the barrel there and squeeeeeeezed, but all without affecting the bore. Looks fine inside, shoots fine, can see no oddity in the bore…I guess that more evidence for a lathe turning. May just be a simple answer, someone turned it to get rid of damage or pitting and refinished it, but if they did that, they did a hell of a job and that seems like a lot of effort for one of these. I just can’t let myself believe it left the factory like that either. Mystery!
November 7, 2015
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Jeremy-
Maybe your 67 came with the rare “group tightener” option. I’ve often wished some of my guns had that option! My 67A is remarkably accurate and I’m not surprised yours performed well. The short stock and open sights kept me from getting any stellar groups before I sent it south to hopefully aid in marksmanship training of my great-nephews and great niece. My brother offered to refinish the wood and I quickly asked him not to! It’s not as nice as yours but considering the probable history I prefer the character acquired teaching aspiring young shooters the basics of marksmanship.
Mike
December 9, 2002
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Jeremy,
I’ve never seen anything like it in all honesty. A lot of guys do what ever it is they decide to do in their shops, naturally.Being a .22 caliber, I can understand the original thickness of the barrel and what he did, seems to be more cosmetic, than anything else!
You did a great job illustrating it in you’re photos! 
It does kinda remind me of a couple custom rifles my late brother in law and I had built years ago, in the .300 Win Mag. for out west Elk Hunting. As the gentleman who did the work, used a reverse taper on the last 6-8 inches of the barrel, to control harmonics of the barrel vibration. It must work because we’ve taken some animals out West at some pretty amazing long distances with those rifles.
Anthony
April 30, 2023
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Yeah it’s the damndest thing….if it was done intentionally I can’t imagine how they matched the bluing so well but you can see up close there’s a slight textural difference in that area…just might remain a mystery!
December 9, 2002
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As pretty astute Winchester collectors, and as many there are, on this site. We all know as you stated that didn’t leave the factory like that, and as far as the bluing matching up that well, with the address looking UN-touched naturally, I’m wondering if the person who did the work, on the barrel, left it that way to not hide it, and let it be shown that way! Yeah, I know that I’m spitballing here and thinking out loud again, as it’s a conundrum to me!
You being able to inspect it in natural light, is surly better than the good picture that you posted, but nothing beats handling it! IMHO!
Another point that you made, was the mystery that may never be solved! Unless the person who did the work, sees this, and contacts us here, as a possible guest on this site. If a member, a PM to you would be possible.
Anthony
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