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I saw a Model 57 at as local gun show on Sunday and wondering about price
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I was at a local gun show this past Sunday, and one of the table holders who I know, has a model 57, in 22 LR.  I don’t remember the serial number but I handled the gun and it appears to be all original and about 85 – 90% condition.  It did have the original Winchester marked detachable magazine.  He is asking $895.  Good price??  I know next to nothing about this model.

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That is a bit high.  I am not sure what Bert and Larry’s current Red Book states but nice, unmolested .22 LR 57’s in 85-90% have been bringing about $650 lately.  The .22 Short sells for a little more.

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That is a bit high.  I am not sure what Bert and Larry’s current Red Book states but nice, unmolested .22 LR 57’s in 85-90% have been bringing about $650 lately.  The .22 Short sells for a little more.

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Good to know.

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M57’s are a quality firearm, but given the status of a target rifle I think that holds the value down a bit. The M56 on the other hand, just a Sporter M57, brings big bucks especially for 22 short and top condition. Personally, what I am seeing for sale lately is not really that nice. A real nice one that is 100% correct down to its follower marked magazine to me is worth $800+.   Big Larry

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That is a bit high.  I am not sure what Bert and Larry’s current Red Book states but nice, unmolested .22 LR 57’s in 85-90% have been bringing about $650 lately.  The .22 Short sells for a little more.

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I don’t know either… Larry was responsible for the values listed for most of the .22 caliber models.  I suspect that the values listed in the Red Book are a bit higher than $650 though.

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Lots of good information here.  JWA gets around a lot and has a good handle on this model.  Thing is that most folks don’t see the deals that he does.  That said, the RedBook is likely a very good guide for the typical buyer as I see it.

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A real nice one that is 100% correct down to its follower marked magazine to me is worth $800+.   Big Larry  

That makes it worth as much as a good Model 52!  The cheapest model of which originally sold for almost twice as much! 

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M52’s are a dime a dozen. All over the Internet. The ones that bring the higher prices are the slowlocks, the very early 30’s guns, the “A”s and the “C”‘s. The “B”s are very common unless you count in the BULLGUNS. Also, condition is a factor. Sights have to be taken into consideration as well. A lot of the M52’s have been modified. Collector rifles are always worth more than these. 

The M57’s are harder to find, and the real nice ones are a collectors prize. I am proud to say, mine is a 96%’er and I paid as much for it as a few on my M52’s, still, I like it. No extra holes, no refinish, proper magazine and etc., etc,. It’s all in perspective. Sometimes you get a deal and sometimes you don’t. Big Larry

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Lots of good information here.  JWA gets around a lot and has a good handle on this model.  Thing is that most folks don’t see the deals that he does.  That said, the RedBook is likely a very good guide for the typical buyer as I see it.

James  

I agree, the Red Book is the best resource for values.  I checked the current Red Book and Larry has the value at $708 for an 80% condition 57 in .22 LR.

I have noticed the 57’s increased quickly in value a few years ago, peaked and have now settled back a little bit.  That observation is based solely on gun shop and gun show prices/sales though and does not account for the auction house sales which are sometimes significantly higher.  There were three nice 80-85% specimens for sale at the Tulsa show a few weeks ago in the $800 range and none of them sold.

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jwm94 said
Lots of good information here.  JWA gets around a lot and has a good handle on this model.  Thing is that most folks don’t see the deals that he does.  That said, the RedBook is likely a very good guide for the typical buyer as I see it.

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I agree, the Red Book is the best resource for values.  I checked the current Red Book and Larry has the value at $708 for an 80% condition 57 in .22 LR.

I have noticed the 57’s increased quickly in value a few years ago, peaked and have now settled back a little bit.  That observation is based solely on gun shop and gun show prices/sales though and does not account for the auction house sales which are sometimes significantly higher.  There were three nice 80-85% specimens for sale at the Tulsa show a few weeks ago in the $800 range and none of them sold.

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Hi, again, Jeff!

The 57 was on the move up in value when it suddenly took off like a rocket a few years ago for a short period, and then settled back as you note, with similar stunning speed. So, from a computer perspective to your all around experience, I think we’re seeing what looks to me like the same big picture that Larry’s data indicates. It doesn’t get any better than that as I see it, although the way the economy is right now, we might be seeing those same estimated values for the next five years, or more, especially with those specimens that are less than very high condition. With this in mind, the old saying from ‘private’ (Laugh) sellers that “I have more than that in it” might very well be the truth and heard frequently as the years drag on!

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With this in mind, the old saying from sellers that “I have more than that in it” might very well be the truth and heard frequently as the years drag on!

James  

No doubt–just don’t believe it!  None of them buy a gun to make a paltry 10 or 20%.  Anyone who’s walked down the aisles of a good show with a great gun for sale should remember very well the laughable offers he’s received from the dealers he passes.

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clarence said

No doubt–just don’t believe it!  None of them buy a gun to make a paltry 10 or 20%.  Anyone who’s walked down the aisles of a good show with a great gun for sale should remember very well the laughable offers he’s received from the dealers he passes.  

Post now reads ‘private’ sellers!!!!! Laugh

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