Avatar
Search
Forum Scope




Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
Lost password?
sp_Feed sp_PrintTopic sp_TopicIcon
Cocking a Winchester Model 74
Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 115
Member Since:
September 6, 2020
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
1
February 10, 2021 - 5:42 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_EditHistory

Greetings to all, 

I have always avoided retracting the bolt handle ALWAYS with the Model 74 safety engaged. 

However, I was reading from a pic of the Winchester warning tag that I found on this site that you should never COCK the gun with safety on, but that once cocked, the bolt can be safely retracted with the safety in either position. 

So is this correct, once the gun is cocked, it doesn’t matter about the safety?

And if so, I am having difficulty understanding why. What is different about the uncocked bolt?  Why will the uncocked bolt potentially hang up on the safety, while the cocked bolt will not. 

Perhaps the non compressed firing pin spring hangs it up?

Or perhaps the front of the sear clicking into the firing pin gives a little more clearance?

Please advise and my thanks as always. 

Mike 

Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 115
Member Since:
September 6, 2020
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
2
February 12, 2021 - 1:08 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Ok, I figured it out I think. 

If you attempt to cock the bolt with the safety on, when the front of the sear rises up just a bit in order to engage the firing pin, its front edge can jam up and behind the back underside edge of the safety cross switch.  This can bind and jam the bolt. 

But once the bolt is cocked and the firing pin engaged, the front of the sear drops back down flush with the rest of the top of the bolt and no longer moves up and down when the bolt is retracted. 

So then the cocked bolt can clear the engaged safety when retracted and released backward and forward respectively because the front of the sear won’t get in the way. 

Mike

Forum Timezone: UTC 0
Most Users Ever Online: 5406
Currently Online: Burt Humphrey, Bert H., Tedk, rogertherelic, Steven Gabrielli, Zebulon, Buck1967
Guest(s) 348
Top Posters:
TXGunNut: 7136
clarence: 7119
Chuck: 6479
steve004: 5535
1873man: 4852
deerhunter: 2865
twobit: 2634
Big Larry: 2578
mrcvs: 2368
Maverick: 2166
Newest Members:
Overdrawn
Texan
mattk71
RCdeck
horne1956
DonDavis
Kc145Driver
Martin
ALongstreet
44 bulldog
Forum Stats:
Groups: 1
Forums: 18
Topics: 15598
Posts: 141518

 

Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 2057
Members: 10506
Moderators: 3
Admins: 4
Administrators: Mike Hager, Bert H., JWA, SethJ
Moderators: Rob Kassab, Brad Dunbar, Heather
Navigation