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After reading The Model 1885 Winder Muskets by Bert Hartman, I was on a mission. Picked this 85 high wall up from Henry Mero for a friend a while back & it recently became mine so now I can post it.
22 Long R with DOM 1913. Wonderful addition to my 22 locker.
November 7, 2015
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Nice! I enjoy shooting my well-worn 22S Winder, my shooting buddy has one In LR. I’ve read the LR doesn’t shoot as well as the 22S but this particular LR shoots quite well.
Very interesting rifle, enjoy!
Mike
Yes I hope to shoot it soon Mike. I couldn’t pass it up with the condition it’s in.
April 15, 2005
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TXGunNut said
Nice! I enjoy shooting my well-worn 22S Winder, my shooting buddy has one In LR. I’ve read the LR doesn’t shoot as well as the 22S but this particular LR shoots quite well.Very interesting rifle, enjoy!
Mike
Mike,
The Winder Muskets that were specifically made for the 22 LR are wonderfully accurate. What do not shoot good are the Winder Muskets that were reamed out from 22 Short to 22 LR, as the rifling twist rate is not correct for the 22 LR.
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November 7, 2015
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Bert H. said
Mike,
The Winder Muskets that were specifically made for the 22 LR are wonderfully accurate. What do not shoot good are the Winder Muskets that were reamed out from 22 Short to 22 LR, as the rifling twist rate is not correct for the 22 LR.
Thanks, Bert. I thought they had the same rifling, apparently the ones made for 22LR had a more appropriate twist rate? I’m hoping to find one someday that has a bit better bore, maybe I should consider the 22LR. Reckon it will keep up with my 75’s?
Mike
November 7, 2015
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RickC said
Yes I hope to shoot it soon Mike. I couldn’t pass it up with the condition it’s in.
Hope you have some target 22 ammo stashed. From what Bert said you may need it to realize this gem’s potential.
Mike
April 15, 2005
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TXGunNut said
Thanks, Bert. I thought they had the same rifling, apparently the ones made for 22LR had a more appropriate twist rate? I’m hoping to find one someday that has a bit better bore, maybe I should consider the 22LR. Reckon it will keep up with my 75’s?
Mike
The Winder Muskets made for the 22 Short were 1:20, whereas those made for the 22 LR were 1:16.
When Winchester first began production of the Model 52 in 1919, they used leftover 22 LR Winder Musket barrels!
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November 7, 2015
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Bert H. said
The Winder Muskets made for the 22 Short were 1:20, whereas those made for the 22 LR were 1:16.
When Winchester first began production of the Model 52 in 1919, they used leftover 22 LR Winder Musket barrels!
Good to know! Target ammo for the 22S is very limited, selection of target ammo in 22LR is a bit better.
Thanks!
Mike
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