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Just picked this up. Couldn’t resist it, doesn’t letter with the screw eyes, but they appear original and have been on this gun for a very long time. IE condition matches the gun. As does the sling and fish hook swivels. Does anyone know what the patent date on the buckle should read? Strap is supple but in need of some conditioner, any one got a favorite? Also some caked on crud between sight and receiver, again any ideas to clean with out ruining the finish, Kroil and copper wool maybe.
Wow,
Great looking 86. I have a model 1894 with the sling and fish hook swivels that letter to the gun. The patent date on the buckle shoud be January 12, 1897.
Al
Thanks Al! I will look for that date this weekend. I have been dyeing for an 86 with oil finish. The strap and eyes were an added bonus.
oldcrankyyankee said
Ok let me try the picture again
YES! That is an irresistible rifle! I am very envious. What a score!
oldcrankyyankee said
Just picked this up. Couldn’t resist it, doesn’t letter with the screw eyes, but they appear original and have been on this gun for a very long time. IE condition matches the gun. As does the sling and fish hook swivels. Does anyone know what the patent date on the buckle should read? Strap is supple but in need of some conditioner, any one got a favorite? Also some caked on crud between sight and receiver, again any ideas to clean with out ruining the finish, Kroil and copper wool maybe.
What is the serial number on it?
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
November 7, 2015
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Beautiful wood!
Mike
oldcrankyyankee said
Just picked this up. Couldn’t resist it, doesn’t letter with the screw eyes, but they appear original and have been on this gun for a very long time. IE condition matches the gun. As does the sling and fish hook swivels. Does anyone know what the patent date on the buckle should read? Strap is supple but in need of some conditioner, any one got a favorite? Also some caked on crud between sight and receiver, again any ideas to clean with out ruining the finish, Kroil and copper wool maybe.
I have an original leather sling like yours and they are very hard to find. This is what I used to condition the sling and have had good results. Seems to be the best out there for antique leather.
https://pecard.com/products/antique-leather-care-products/antique-leather-dressing/
Don
Now that is a fine looking 1886. What a find. More pictures are required! I can’t wait to take my .33 after sambar down here soon.
Wonderful backdrop for the photograph too! Congrats on a nice 1886
Chris
A man can never have too many WINCHESTERS...
steve004 said
oldcrankyyankee said
YES! That is an irresistible rifle! I am very envious. What a score!
Thanks Steve, I knew you would like it being a 33wcf. I really do like that caliber too. One deficiency ,it had a rear sight at so point and was removed and slot plugged. But the wear from sight shows.
Bert H. said
oldcrankyyankee said
Just picked this up. Couldn’t resist it, doesn’t letter with the screw eyes, but they appear original and have been on this gun for a very long time. IE condition matches the gun. As does the sling and fish hook swivels. Does anyone know what the patent date on the buckle should read? Strap is supple but in need of some conditioner, any one got a favorite? Also some caked on crud between sight and receiver, again any ideas to clean with out ruining the finish, Kroil and copper wool maybe.
What is the serial number on it?
Bert
serial is 128934
TXGunNut said
Beautiful wood!
Mike
Thanks Mike it was one of the many things I loved about this one. Nice that the assembly numbers match also, with a xx r designator. Can’t wait to shoot it.
oldcrankyyankee said
steve004 said
oldcrankyyankee said
YES! That is an irresistible rifle! I am very envious. What a score!
Thanks Steve, I knew you would like it being a 33wcf. I really do like that caliber too. One deficiency ,it had a rear sight at so point and was removed and slot plugged. But the wear from sight shows.
Tom –
You could remove this deficiency by putting the correct rear sight back on it. The blank is far more pragmatic and matches well with the Lyman receiver sight. For me, it would depend on how much I was going to actually use the rifle. I have several rifles with receiver sights or tang sights as well as the original rear barrel sight. I really dislike looking through the aperture and seeing that barrel sight in the way. For some, I have removed the rear sight and put a blank in (or the folding two-leaf sight that folds flat). I don’t do it on all the rifles. The most common reason is my dislike of removing a sight that sat untouched in that dovetail for 100 or maybe even 140 years. Sure, if it was my only rifle, or one that I hunted with, I would do it. But for a rifle that spends 99%+ of its time in the safe, and makes the rare range trip, I’d rather leave it untouched
By the way, you mention you have a letter on it. What does it say for sights?
steve004 said
oldcrankyyankee said
steve004 said
oldcrankyyankee said
YES! That is an irresistible rifle! I am very envious. What a score!
Thanks Steve, I knew you would like it being a 33wcf. I really do like that caliber too. One deficiency ,it had a rear sight at so point and was removed and slot plugged. But the wear from sight shows.
Tom –
You could remove this deficiency by putting the correct rear sight back on it. The blank is far more pragmatic and matches well with the Lyman receiver sight. For me, it would depend on how much I was going to actually use the rifle. I have several rifles with receiver sights or tang sights as well as the original rear barrel sight. I really dislike looking through the aperture and seeing that barrel sight in the way. For some, I have removed the rear sight and put a blank in (or the folding two-leaf sight that folds flat). I don’t do it on all the rifles. The most common reason is my dislike of removing a sight that sat untouched in that dovetail for 100 or maybe even 140 years. Sure, if it was my only rifle, or one that I hunted with, I would do it. But for a rifle that spends 99%+ of its time in the safe, and makes the rare range trip, I’d rather leave it untouched
By the way, you mention you have a letter on it. What does it say for sights?
Steve, in answer to your question, strangely the letter mentions nothing in regards to the sights. The wear pattern clearly shows it had some kind of a single leaf with elevator at one point, But the Lyman receiver sight has been there a long time also, maybe original, but hard for me tell as I am not the expert here. But the slug in the slot is a williams and looks newer than the rifle. Thinking that at some point the person got sick of trying to sight thru two rear apertures and had it put in which makes perfect sense to me. Given the condition of this gun I am considering putting a sight back on. Although not yet as I mite want to shoot as is for this coming deer season
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oldcrankyyankee said
steve004 said
oldcrankyyankee said
steve004 said
oldcrankyyankee said
YES! That is an irresistible rifle! I am very envious. What a score!
Thanks Steve, I knew you would like it being a 33wcf. I really do like that caliber too. One deficiency ,it had a rear sight at so point and was removed and slot plugged. But the wear from sight shows.
Tom –
You could remove this deficiency by putting the correct rear sight back on it. The blank is far more pragmatic and matches well with the Lyman receiver sight. For me, it would depend on how much I was going to actually use the rifle. I have several rifles with receiver sights or tang sights as well as the original rear barrel sight. I really dislike looking through the aperture and seeing that barrel sight in the way. For some, I have removed the rear sight and put a blank in (or the folding two-leaf sight that folds flat). I don’t do it on all the rifles. The most common reason is my dislike of removing a sight that sat untouched in that dovetail for 100 or maybe even 140 years. Sure, if it was my only rifle, or one that I hunted with, I would do it. But for a rifle that spends 99%+ of its time in the safe, and makes the rare range trip, I’d rather leave it untouched
By the way, you mention you have a letter on it. What does it say for sights?
Steve, in answer to your question, strangely the letter mentions nothing in regards to the sights. The wear pattern clearly shows it had some kind of a single leaf with elevator at one point, But the Lyman receiver sight has been there a long time also, maybe original, but hard for me tell as I am not the expert here. But the slug in the slot is a williams and looks newer than the rifle. Thinking that at some point the person got sick of trying to sight thru two rear apertures and had it put in which makes perfect sense to me. Given the condition of this gun I am considering putting a sight back on. Although not yet as I mite want to shoot as is for this coming deer season
Tom – we have similar thoughts on this rifle. One thing I know for sure is if I didn’t put an original sight back in that slot, I’d for sure get that Williams blank out of there and put a vintage blank in.
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