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deerhunter
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Let’s try this again.  Unlike the 1886 I posted a couple days ago, I think this one’s legit and a keeper!

Gary–do you have this one in your survey?

Don

 

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I took the time to look at the photographs instead of the blanket thumbs up and congratulations being given.

Much better, more like something I would pursue.  The wood to metal fit is much better than the other one, and wear to the receiver, the end of the barrel, the high points to the sides of the front sight.  All reasons why I much prefer a 90 to 95% Winchester over a “100%” one.

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Thanks Ian. I’m back in my comfort zone with the model 1894’s.  I look for factory polishing marks on the receiver and this one definitely has them.

Don

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I like this gun Don – you gotta love the burl walnut Winchester put on their deluxe guns during this era. When you look at the fit of the butt stock to the plate, there is no doubt the wood and metal have been together since day 1 – same way for the forearm, a really nice fit. Like others have commented, anymore it is nice to see the blue wear so you can be confident it has not been through one of the fakers. Guns like this 94 are getting harder and harder to find because collectors want them. This one will help make up for the frustation with the 86.

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Don,

That is a beautiful Fancy Extra Lightweight Rifle!  The 3/4 mag and crescent butt are very rare special-order features on an ELW.  Per the Winchester catalogs, the ELW rifles were to be fitted with the black hard rubber butt plates as standard (which helped reduced the weight of the rifle).  One of the features found on the ELW rifles was a large diameter hole bored into the rear of the butt stock (under the butt plate) to further reduce the weight.  Does this rifle have the bored hole ?

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Very nice Don.

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Don:

Totally agree!  A very righteous 1894 and welcome addition to any collection.

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Thanks everyone.  I think this is my new favorite and it will be sticking around for awhile.

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Don,

That is a beautiful Fancy Extra Lightweight Rifle!  The 3/4 mag and crescent butt are very rare special-order features on an ELW.  Per the Winchester catalogs, the ELW rifles were to be fitted with the black hard rubber butt plates as standard (which helped reduced the weight of the rifle).  One of the features found on the ELW rifles was a large diameter hole bored into the rear of the butt stock (under the butt plate) to further reduce the weight.  Does this rifle have the bored hole ?

Bert

  

Hi Bert,

Here’s a couple photos with the butt-plate removed and there is a bored hole, along with matching assembly numbers.

 

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Nice piece Don, definitely checks all the boxes. You have a good resource!

Darrin

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That is a rifle to be very proud of!

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deerhunter said
Let’s try this again.  Unlike the 1886 I posted a couple days ago, I think this one’s legit and a keeper!

Gary–do you have this one in your survey?

Don

  

Yes, and believe it or not I’ve held that gun in my hands on several occasions. It has been passed around by several of the high end dealers. 

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pdog72 said

deerhunter said

Let’s try this again.  Unlike the 1886 I posted a couple days ago, I think this one’s legit and a keeper!

Gary–do you have this one in your survey?

Don

  

Yes, and believe it or not I’ve held that gun in my hands on several occasions. It has been passed around by several of the high end dealers. 

  

That’s interesting Gary.  The Cody letter has Larry Orr’s name on it from 2018.   I’ve seen him in the WACA magazines.

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That’s interesting Gary.  The Cody letter has Larry Orr’s name on it from 2018.   I’ve seen him in the WACA magazines.

  

 That’s a good name to have on a letter. I’ve bought several guns from him, he has a good eye and honest. T/R

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deerhunter said

 

 

  

That’s interesting Gary.  The Cody letter has Larry Orr’s name on it from 2018.   I’ve seen him in the WACA magazines.

  

 That’s a good name to have on a letter. I’ve bought several guns from him, he has a good eye and honest. T/R

  

Agreed, one of the good guys for sure. I came very close to buying that gun a couple times, mainly because of the crescent butt. I guess I found something else I was more interested in by the end of those shows. Seeing it again, I wish it was in my safe. ?

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pdog72 said

TR said

deerhunter said

 

 

  

That’s interesting Gary.  The Cody letter has Larry Orr’s name on it from 2018.   I’ve seen him in the WACA magazines.

  

 That’s a good name to have on a letter. I’ve bought several guns from him, he has a good eye and honest. T/R

  

Agreed, one of the good guys for sure. I came very close to buying that gun a couple times, mainly because of the crescent butt. I guess I found something else I was more interested in by the end of those shows. Seeing it again, I wish it was in my safe. ?

  

Sorry Gary.  If you want, I can send you photos of it every now and then. ?

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deerhunter said

Bert H. said

Don,

That is a beautiful Fancy Extra Lightweight Rifle!  The 3/4 mag and crescent butt are very rare special-order features on an ELW.  Per the Winchester catalogs, the ELW rifles were to be fitted with the black hard rubber butt plates as standard (which helped reduced the weight of the rifle).  One of the features found on the ELW rifles was a large diameter hole bored into the rear of the butt stock (under the butt plate) to further reduce the weight.  Does this rifle have the bored hole ?

Bert

  

Hi Bert,

Here’s a couple photos with the butt-plate removed and there is a bored hole, along with matching assembly numbers.

 

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Don,

That is precisely what I would expect to find on a factory special order ELW!  Thanks for the photos.

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Thanks Bert.  Glad there’s no surprises with this one!

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Beautiful rifle. Hard to find 100% original high condition example like that. Great acquisition! 

 Rick C 

   

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RickC said
Beautiful rifle. Hard to find 100% original high condition example like that. Great acquisition! 

  

Thanks Rick.  I like special order as well as high condition.  Was fortunate enough to find one with both that hasn’t been messed with.

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