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May 21, 2025 - 4:07 pm
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https://www.wardscollectibles.com/auction/A100/viewitem.php?item=4430

 

Here’s a hard to find Hotchkiss Carbine in the desirable 45-70, coming to Auction!

 

Anthony

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The young guys at Wards do their best but are not nearly as accurate with their descriptions as we would like.

Three digit serial number carbines went to the Army first, I believe?  Most 1st and 2nd Model carbines have cracked wrists.  These carbines are only partly Winchester.  A lot of parts were made by Springfield Armory.  Like the barrels.

Less civilian rifles in various configurations were made than the Military versions.

Read Herbert House’s book.  Winchester Bolt Action Military & Sporting Rifles 1877 to 1937.  And A Collector’s Guide to Winchester in the Service by Bruce Canfield.

I am not saying this is a bad carbine but don’t be shocked when the barrel address says Springfield.  There is no barrel address.

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Chuck,

That’s a great bit of advice and knowledgeable expertise that you added! I agree with you on the Ward’s descriptions, in General, and there’s room for improvement with their picture selection and or lack of! Keeps many from bidding and going after a lot of their stuff!

 

Anthony

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Anthony said
Chuck,

That’s a great bit of advice and knowledgeable expertise that you added! I agree with you on the Ward’s descriptions, in General, and there’s room for improvement with their picture selection and or lack of! Keeps many from bidding and going after a lot of their stuff!

 

Anthony

  

I misspoke again.  The Military barrel is not marked Springfield.  But they were made at the Springfield Armory.

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If you want to really confuse Wards ask them if the carbine has the 2 piece cleaning rods in the stock. Bet they didn’t even know to check.

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Here is a picture of the underside of my Hotchkiss carbine.  The forend cap opens up to access the cleaning rods.

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Very interesting Chuck!

I learned something else, once again.

 

Anthony

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I learn something almost every day but I think I loose more than I get.

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I recently found a carbine that has some internal problems so I was looking online to find out how these come apart.  There is no audio.

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Chuck said
Here is a picture of the underside of my Hotchkiss carbine.  The forend cap opens up to access the cleaning rods.

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That’s pretty slick, Chuck. I’ve enjoyed gazing on a few Hotchkiss carbines and never noticed that! 

 

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TXGunNut said

Chuck said

Here is a picture of the underside of my Hotchkiss carbine.  The forend cap opens up to access the cleaning rods.

Hotchkiss-Cleaning-Rods.jpgImage Enlarger

  

That’s pretty slick, Chuck. I’ve enjoyed gazing on a few Hotchkiss carbines and never noticed that! 

 

Mike

  

Only the Military carbines have these.  

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