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Morphy Auction - Model 64 - Lot Number 2253
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August 13, 2025 - 7:09 pm
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I am looking at a Model 64 in 38-55 at the upcoming Morphy Auction. Very cautious of this as noted in both the Red Book as well as The Winchester Collectors Winter 2023, that both the 32-40 and the 38-55 are very rare and be wary of the fakes.   The lot number on this one is 2253.  How can i distinguish if this came from the factory as a 38-55 or if this one is a fake?

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Is this the model 64/94 .38-55 we’ve been discussing on another thread?  (Featured in Renneberg’s book)?

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Steve – no, this is a different one. This is a Model 64, not a hybrid.

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I am looking at a Model 64 in 38-55 at the upcoming Morphy Auction. Very cautious of this as noted in both the Red Book as well as The Winchester Collectors Winter 2023, that both the 32-40 and the 38-55 are very rare and be wary of the fakes.   The lot number on this one is 2253.  How can i distinguish if this came from the factory as a 38-55 or if this one is a fake?
  

I have it documented as most likely original, but without a hands on inspection, I cannot be 100% certain.

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Bert – Thank you!

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I am looking at a Model 64 in 38-55 at the upcoming Morphy Auction. Very cautious of this as noted in both the Red Book as well as The Winchester Collectors Winter 2023, that both the 32-40 and the 38-55 are very rare and be wary of the fakes.   The lot number on this one is 2253.  How can i distinguish if this came from the factory as a 38-55 or if this one is a fake?
  

Scooter. I think you should make a run at it. In fact I’d being willing to help you with buying it, by buying that deluxe 86 ELW in 45-90 I lost to you a couple years ago. FWIW.

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I think i am going to hold onto the 1886 ELWTD, but, for the right price, i might be willing to part with it.

Would like to have the 64 in 38-55. Looks pretty clean, but, there are plenty other auctions coming up. 

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