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Well, this information is somewhat encouraging. I have a 1949 Model 94 25-35 that I have had nothing but problems with and having been an armorer in the Marines and a gun mechanic, I fiddled around with trying to fix it. The issue seems to be with the chamber, as you can visually see some ring type imperfections in the chamber, and how they got there who knows. I have two threads on this gun on this forum.
Scouring the internet, I discovered that there is a gunsmith not too far from me, about 60 miles, which is better than sending something across the continent. I brought him the 94, and had I realized he was there I might have done this is the first place. Anyway, we discussed the issues and whatever I did, or maybe should not have done, and I suggested the possibility of just turning the barrel back, he was kind of well I don’t know. He looked at the fired brass, etc., and mentioned maybe needing a new barrel. So, now the ball is in his court. Hs is going to pull the barrel do a chamber cast, etc. and then give me a quote on fixing it.
Now that a new barrel has been brought up, I did some web surfing and found this: WINCHESTERBARRELS.COM – Winchester barrels
I have bought quite a few used and older guns over the years, and this is the first time I bought a project I cannot solve. If I did buy a replacement barrel, we could probably swap out the barrel ourselves but if it needs to be headspaced, then I’d need a lathe. Well, it is either fix it or have a $1,000 wallhanger.
Ken Windeler said
I have bought quite a few used and older guns over the years, and this is the first time I bought a project I cannot solve. If I did buy a replacement barrel, we could probably swap out the barrel ourselves but if it needs to be headspaced, then I’d need a lathe. Well, it is either fix it or have a $1,000 wallhanger.
I think you’d be better off scouring ebay & the web for a used .30-30 brl, which shouldn’t be too hard to find. (Much more difficult to find a .25-30.) Winchester brls usually index properly without a headspace problem. Both the other remedies you’re talking about will take you much deeper into the red; in other words, the gun you have isn’t worth what you’re proposing.
Only other suggestion I can make is to send the gun to someone who really knows what he’s doing, like John Taylor Machine. If the “locking up” problem is fixable, he’ll know what to do. Maybe the brl can be restored with a liner, which he can also take care of.
clarence said
Ken Windeler said
I have bought quite a few used and older guns over the years, and this is the first time I bought a project I cannot solve. If I did buy a replacement barrel, we could probably swap out the barrel ourselves but if it needs to be headspaced, then I’d need a lathe. Well, it is either fix it or have a $1,000 wallhanger.
I think you’d be better off scouring ebay & the web for a used .30-30 brl, which shouldn’t be too hard to find. (Much more difficult to find a .25-30.) Winchester brls usually index properly without a headspace problem. Both the other remedies you’re talking about will take you much deeper into the red; in other words, the gun you have isn’t worth what you’re proposing.
Only other suggestion I can make is to send the gun to someone who really knows what he’s doing, like John Taylor Machine. If the “locking up” problem is fixable, he’ll know what to do. Maybe the brl can be restored with a liner, which he can also take care of.
Yes, I understand all of that. A lot of what we do for and with our guns aren’t worth it dollars wise. I don’t know if I’m going to do anything yet, and it hasn’t cost me anything yet either.
We have a 30-30, as well as a .32 Special
Nobody hates shipping guns more than I, so if the man doing the chamber cast is competent to deal with the problem, you’re lucky to have made his acquaintance. However, a gunsmith without a lathe would not inspire my confidence.
clarence said
Nobody hates shipping guns more than I, so if the man doing the chamber cast is competent to deal with the problem, you’re lucky to have made his acquaintance. However, a gunsmith without a lathe would not inspire my confidence.
I’m the one who doesn’t have the lathe, I assume he does as his Facebook page had a price on turning back and rechambering barrels. He seemed to be a complete gunsmith operation, been in business for 8 years. He is close enough that I can drive up to his shop.
This is a learning curve for me too as I’ve been lucky that with all of the used guns, I’ve or we, including my brother and uncle, have 13bought I was able to address most ailments myself.
Sam Walker said
However, turning back a Winchester Barrel does not work!
No, & even on a SS, two new dovetails would have to be cut, for the forearm screw stud & mainspring block.
Ken Windeler said
Well, this information is somewhat encouraging. I have a 1949 Model 94 25-35 that I have had nothing but problems with and having been an armorer in the Marines and a gun mechanic, I fiddled around with trying to fix it. The issue seems to be with the chamber, as you can visually see some ring type imperfections in the chamber, and how they got there who knows. I have two threads on this gun on this forum.Scouring the internet, I discovered that there is a gunsmith not too far from me, about 60 miles, which is better than sending something across the continent. I brought him the 94, and had I realized he was there I might have done this is the first place. Anyway, we discussed the issues and whatever I did, or maybe should not have done, and I suggested the possibility of just turning the barrel back, he was kind of well I don’t know. He looked at the fired brass, etc., and mentioned maybe needing a new barrel. So, now the ball is in his court. Hs is going to pull the barrel do a chamber cast, etc. and then give me a quote on fixing it.
Now that a new barrel has been brought up, I did some web surfing and found this: WINCHESTERBARRELS.COM – Winchester barrels
I have bought quite a few used and older guns over the years, and this is the first time I bought a project I cannot solve. If I did buy a replacement barrel, we could probably swap out the barrel ourselves but if it needs to be headspaced, then I’d need a lathe. Well, it is either fix it or have a $1,000 wallhanger.
You might do just fine if you simply parted the rifle out. Put the money toward a different rifle.
steve004 said
Ken Windeler said
Well, this information is somewhat encouraging. I have a 1949 Model 94 25-35 that I have had nothing but problems with and having been an armorer in the Marines and a gun mechanic, I fiddled around with trying to fix it. The issue seems to be with the chamber, as you can visually see some ring type imperfections in the chamber, and how they got there who knows. I have two threads on this gun on this forum.
Scouring the internet, I discovered that there is a gunsmith not too far from me, about 60 miles, which is better than sending something across the continent. I brought him the 94, and had I realized he was there I might have done this is the first place. Anyway, we discussed the issues and whatever I did, or maybe should not have done, and I suggested the possibility of just turning the barrel back, he was kind of well I don’t know. He looked at the fired brass, etc., and mentioned maybe needing a new barrel. So, now the ball is in his court. Hs is going to pull the barrel do a chamber cast, etc. and then give me a quote on fixing it.
Now that a new barrel has been brought up, I did some web surfing and found this: WINCHESTERBARRELS.COM – Winchester barrels
I have bought quite a few used and older guns over the years, and this is the first time I bought a project I cannot solve. If I did buy a replacement barrel, we could probably swap out the barrel ourselves but if it needs to be headspaced, then I’d need a lathe. Well, it is either fix it or have a $1,000 wallhanger.
You might do just fine if you simply parted the rifle out. Put the money toward a different rifle.
Buying a decent Model 94 in 25-35 is easier said than done, so I would buy a different rifle, and I doubt I’d get my money back out of parting it out. This 94 is worth saving in my opinion. I like the 25-35 so much that I even bought a new production Model 1894 and it was a piece of junk. Winchester does a nice job on the reproduction rifles but have turned the Model 94 into a clunker.
Well, it hasn’t cost me anything yet, the 94 is at the gunsmith, I haven’t heard from them, and yes, I keep looking for another one.
I doubt if a 25 caliber liner is being made with the correct twist for the 25-35, although I’m sure 1 in 10 would probably work.
This is all new to me with all of the older and used guns I’ve bought, which was most of them, most problems I could fix myself, this one not so.
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