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Winchester Model 94 25-35 Carbine. I am still having issues with this carbine the original discussion is here:
So, I shot is again Thursday and it is doing the same thing. The primers are being pushed out too much which is not normal. There are some irregularities in the chamber which is why I ask the question.
According to the original thread the stock on this gun is probably not correct or at least the buttplate is not, the lever was not original, this is the only Model 94 I have owned where the barrel extended slightly into the received well, headspace gauge indicated insufficient headspace. Parts gun?
When fired the case is getting stuck in the chamber, the primer is getting pushed out and locking up the action, but because the cartridge case is stuck in the chamber it is not being driven back and reseating the primer, therefore locking up the action
Therefore, if this 94 has defective chamber, how and or why? I do not have a way to take a picture of the chamber, but the imperfection can be seen in the case. So, in order to correct this situation is to have the barrel turned back and re-headspaced. Who do I send it to?
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Ken Windeler said Parts gun?
Even if the brl was replaced, it shouldn’t cause this problem; I’ve never heard of a Win brl that couldn’t be transplanted into another rcvr of the same model, but I suppose there could always be an exception.
John Taylor in Wa can do the work, though he’s VERY busy.
Well after reading posts about “certain persons” building enhanced models from leftover parts, or just swapping parts, the thought of someone resurrecting a barrel that was defective had occurred to me. I have serious doubts that this 94 left Winchester with a chamber like this one, and the only thing I can see that would create this situation was improper machining.
I have had enough Model 94’s as well as other older firearms to know that this should not be happening.
Ken Windeler said
Well after reading posts about “certain persons” building enhanced models from leftover parts, or just swapping parts, the thought of someone resurrecting a barrel that was defective had occurred to me. I have serious doubts that this 94 left Winchester with a chamber like this one, and the only thing I can see that would create this situation was improper machining.I have had enough Model 94’s as well as other older firearms to know that this should not be happening.
Certainly shouldn’t be happening. The brl swappers & parts changers wouldn’t ordinarily do things requiring machine work. But hard to understand what could have damaged chamber unless it had been rechambered for a different cartridge, like an “improved” .25-35, which it has not apparently. Nor do I see how a problem as serious as this could have passed the regular proofing tests.
Well, you could always dispose of it at the nearest pawn shop.
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clarence said
Ken Windeler said
Well after reading posts about “certain persons” building enhanced models from leftover parts, or just swapping parts, the thought of someone resurrecting a barrel that was defective had occurred to me. I have serious doubts that this 94 left Winchester with a chamber like this one, and the only thing I can see that would create this situation was improper machining.
I have had enough Model 94’s as well as other older firearms to know that this should not be happening.
Certainly shouldn’t be happening. The brl swappers & parts changers wouldn’t ordinarily do things requiring machine work. But hard to understand what could have damaged chamber unless it had been rechambered for a different cartridge, like an “improved” .25-35, which it has not apparently. Nor do I see how a problem as serious as this could have passed the regular proofing tests.
Well, you could always dispose of it at the nearest pawn shop.
Which could start the cycle all over again. Wouldn’t it be something if the next owner shows up here looking for advice.
steve004 said
clarence said
Ken Windeler said
Well after reading posts about “certain persons” building enhanced models from leftover parts, or just swapping parts, the thought of someone resurrecting a barrel that was defective had occurred to me. I have serious doubts that this 94 left Winchester with a chamber like this one, and the only thing I can see that would create this situation was improper machining.
I have had enough Model 94’s as well as other older firearms to know that this should not be happening.
Certainly shouldn’t be happening. The brl swappers & parts changers wouldn’t ordinarily do things requiring machine work. But hard to understand what could have damaged chamber unless it had been rechambered for a different cartridge, like an “improved” .25-35, which it has not apparently. Nor do I see how a problem as serious as this could have passed the regular proofing tests.
Well, you could always dispose of it at the nearest pawn shop.
Which could start the cycle all over again. Wouldn’t it be something if the next owner shows up here looking for advice.
That next owner is already here.
Ken Windeler said
steve004 said
clarence said
Ken Windeler said
Well after reading posts about “certain persons” building enhanced models from leftover parts, or just swapping parts, the thought of someone resurrecting a barrel that was defective had occurred to me. I have serious doubts that this 94 left Winchester with a chamber like this one, and the only thing I can see that would create this situation was improper machining.
I have had enough Model 94’s as well as other older firearms to know that this should not be happening.
Certainly shouldn’t be happening. The brl swappers & parts changers wouldn’t ordinarily do things requiring machine work. But hard to understand what could have damaged chamber unless it had been rechambered for a different cartridge, like an “improved” .25-35, which it has not apparently. Nor do I see how a problem as serious as this could have passed the regular proofing tests.
Well, you could always dispose of it at the nearest pawn shop.
Which could start the cycle all over again. Wouldn’t it be something if the next owner shows up here looking for advice.
That next owner is already here.
I meant the owner that follows you – if you take Clarence’s suggestion.
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