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Recently inherited 1892. Advice on maintenance?
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Texasaggie19
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Hello, 

I recently inherited a Winchester 1892, serial number 111369, chambered in 44-40. 

I would like advice on how to maintain its condition, and possibly clean up the wood stock on it. I have ammunition for it that I also inherited, but as far as I know it’s only been a wall hanger for the last 60-70 years. 

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Wood looks pretty worn around the tang (or missing) and may have been sanded already once in its life. Most here are going to advise you to just put on a coat of wax or wood feed ‘n wax (it looks dry to me), a thin rubbing of oil on the metal and a couple drops inside on the action bits and hang ‘er back up or go shoot her!

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Also, if you do shoot it, check for any obstructions or possible bulge inside the barrel and make sure you have the correct ammo. It may have been a wall hanger for a reason. Congrats and good luck. 

 Rick C 

   

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Teasip here, so you may want to discard the advice, although our daughter is an Aggie.  

I disagree with most of the advice you just got about shooting your Model 1892.  If you value it and your fingers and eyesight,  show this fine old rifle the respect it deserves by taking it to a gunsmith KNOWN TO BE SKILLED AND REPUTABLE and ask him to do the following: 

1. Disassemble the gun, check the barrel for obstructions and the breechbolt assembly for headspace. Determine whether the gun is safe to shoot and whether any internal parts have excess wear to the point they MUST be replaced.

2. Verify the action and feeding assemblies are functional.

3. Clean and lubricate the working parts, reassemble and test fire. [Provide the ‘Smith with several rounds of ammunition for test firing.]

I can recommend Nagel’s of San Antonio, if they still maintain a working gunsmith operation. Others on the forum who live in Bexar County can also give some names. 

Resist having any refinishing done until you fully understand the consequences. Hard core collectors recoil in horror at removing a single flake of “patina” also known as rust, or disturbing blackened wood. Your rifle’s stock and forearm may have been refinished or it may have just shrunk from age and low humidity. The wood finish, whether factory original or a refinish, is probably varnish, or linseed oil with sufficient drying additives to make it act like varnish. Either way, leave it alone for the time being.

You have some options but, for now,  follow the physician’s rule:  Primum, non nocere.  First, do no harm. 

- Bill 

 

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I can see the good advice, above in all the comments!

Bill,

I used to enjoy Nagel’s! Smile

 

Anthony

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Teasip here, so you may want to discard the advice, although our daughter is an Aggie.  
I disagree with most of the advice you just got about shooting your Model 1892.  If you value it and your fingers and eyesight,  show this fine old rifle the respect it deserves by taking it to a gunsmith KNOWN TO BE SKILLED AND REPUTABLE and ask him to do the following: 
1. Disassemble the gun, check the barrel for obstructions and the breechbolt assembly for headspace. Determine whether the gun is safe to shoot and whether any internal parts have excess wear to the point they MUST be replaced.
2. Verify the action and feeding assemblies are functional.
3. Clean and lubricate the working parts, reassemble and test fire. [Provide the ‘Smith with several rounds of ammunition for test firing.]
I can recommend Nagel’s of San Antonio, if they still maintain a working gunsmith operation. Others on the forum who live in Bexar County can also give some names. 
Resist having any refinishing done until you fully understand the consequences. Hard core collectors recoil in horror at removing a single flake of “patina” also known as rust, or disturbing blackened wood. Your rifle’s stock and forearm may have been refinished or it may have just shrunk from age and low humidity. The wood finish, whether factory original or a refinish, is probably varnish, or linseed oil with sufficient drying additives to make it act like varnish. Either way, leave it alone for the time being.
You have some options but, for now,  follow the physician’s rule:  Primum, non nocere.  First, do no harm. 
  

Thank you for the advice. I took a look at it and I think the original photos I took darkened the gun more than what it really is. I’ve attached a few more to this comment. The action also seems to be pretty smooth considering it’s a 126 year old rifle lol. I cleaned it up some with a rag. I’m pretty sure my grandfather cleaned it at least once a year with a hoppes kit. The furniture looks to be original and not sanded or modified in any way. 
Would you recommend mineral spirits or BLO or old west snake oil to maintain the condition of the wood? 

thanks again 

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Most any type of oil will work.  Winchester used boiled linseed oil.  Apply coats of oil until it quits soaking in.  Make sure you wipe off the excess. 

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By “almost anything” Chuck doesn’t mean petroleum-based, like 3-in1.  He’s done more of this than I have and linseed oil is the favored, traditional oil for gunstocks. It is very slow to dry and, as he has suggested to me, boiled linseed oil – which contains a drying agent – might be best. 

Another harmless alternative is Renaissance Wax, which is a brand of museum-safe wax designed for preserving the finish of antiques. 

I’m not knowledgeable enough about ammunition to know whether the cartridges you showed us are antiques loaded with black powder or modern smokeless. The rifle (once cleared for shooting) is safe with either but, if one of our knowledgeable guys says it’s black, get his advice on cleaning the gun after shooting it. My advice on a good gunsmith still stands. 

- Bill 

 

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That ammo is the old Balloon head type. I would not shoot it. 44-40 ammo is available at most sporting goods store, but is very expensive. Over $50 a box. Todays ammo is made for pistols and will not harm your rifle. I would just clean it up as suggested by the previous posters and run a few shells through it. Way too expensive to just blast away. I have 4 44-40’s. They are all very accurate. It’s a great cartridge.  Big Larry

 

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The ammo is fairly new.  The older cartridges did not have a jacket nor the tinish primers.

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