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Art M
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May 1, 2025 - 9:19 pm
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Hi everyone. New member here.

A little back story. My Dad had this Winchester 1892 44-40 Carbine (#99958 – 1895 Build) hanging on a wall as a decoration in his man cave for decades. I remember playing around with it when I was a kid (different time). When he passed away in 2006, I inherited the rifle. I didn’t think much of it and it sat in a case in my closet for 15 years until I pulled it out one day. The metal is severely pitted and there is a missing piece of the wooden stock. However, when I broke the gun down and inspected it, it was in remarkable shape. The rifling is clear and all metal parts are clean and in working order. I replaced all the springs (cartridge guide, magazine, ejector spring) and cleaned and oiled it.

1st: It’s works pretty well. However, there is a hitch in it’s giddy-up when I attempt to lever a new round into the chamber as the new round comes up to the cartridge guides It sticks. But if I back off the lever for a fraction of a second, I’m able to complete the action and load the round. To accomplish this, I had to loosen the left cartridge guide screw ¼ turn. Rounds eject with no problems. I’ve tried everything and I can’t figure out why it doesn’t work. Other than the fact that the parts all seem original and are 130 years old. Any suggestions?

2nd: I did take it to a gunsmith a few years ago who was recommended for antique guns and he was no help. I actually seemed to know more about the inner workings of this rifle than he did. When he couldn’t get it to chamber correctly, he said that I could manually load one shot at a time and shoot it.

I’d like to take it to the range and see how it fires before I attempt the full restoration. But I’m a little leery about taking a 130-year-old gun and shooting it for the first time in decades. I have Black Hills Ammo, smokeless cowboy rounds 200 grain RNFP. Does this sound like a reasonable and safe load for this gun? Any input would be appreciated.

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Hi! I have to ask this first, so forgive me, but are you working the lever like it owes you money? They don’t want to be babied…

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May 1, 2025 - 9:35 pm
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Jeremy – No. It hitches regardless of me beating it or babying it.

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Hello Art,

Model 1892 s/n 99958 was officially manufactured in late August of the year 1898 per the original Winchester records.

The ammo you mentioned is more than reasonable for a Model 1892, and it is perfectly safe to shoot.

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Bert – Thanks for the reply. Can I ask where you accessed the records? I have looked in multiple places and found different manufacture dates of 1895 and 1896. I trust that yours is correct.

 

Thanks, Art

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vociferous1 said
Bert – Thanks for the reply. Can I ask where you accessed the records? I have looked in multiple places and found different manufacture dates of 1895 and 1896. I trust that yours is correct.

 

Thanks, Art

  

Art,

I looked at the actual factory serialization records.  90% + of the information you will find on the internet concerning Winchester dates of manufacture is erroneous.  We (WACA) offer the only online resource that has accurate information – Dates -Winchester Collector

If you would like an official document that provides the precise date of manufacture, I highly recommend contacting the Cody Firearms Museum records office.  For nominal fee they can provide you with a Factory letter that contains all the information as originally recorded by Winchester in their records.

Winchester Factory Records – Cody Firearms Records Office (centerofthewest.org)

Bert – WACA Historian

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Thanks Bert. Appreciate the reply

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Another dumb question for you Art, but is she oiled up and or cleaned as needed? Hard to diagnose over the webs….maybe have someone help you video the issue and post it somewhere and provide us a link? Might be the best we can do to try and notice something…you original post lends me to believe binding but I’d try a cleaning and oiling first, especially if it’s sat for awhile or been a wall hanger.

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