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The purpose is for gun safe storage (i.e. avoidance of safe dings). Silcone impregnated or not? I suppose the knit stocks are important so the rifle can breathe.
Thanks!
steve004 said
Silcone impregnated or not?
No need for silicone is space is heated, or you live in Death Valley. Never had any problem resulting from use of plastic soft cases in a heated (slightly) space, though I live in the humid NE.
November 7, 2015
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I like BoreStores, fleece gun socks that let me stack long guns in a horizontal safe (Knaack job site tool box) like cordwood and they’re also good enough for gentle transport to shows or the range. I think Midway has a knockoff that seem just as good.
Mike
November 7, 2015
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Not that I’m aware of. My brother has been wiping his hunting rifles down with a silicone cloth for decades and they look like new. I’ve always used knit socks with silicone but switched to the fleece ones several years back with the new safe.
Mike
I use the silicone impregnated socks to protect against bumps and bruises in the safe. I live in the desert SW but use the silicone impregnated socks based on an article I read many years ago that illustrated the differences of guns after a fire in a safe with no sock, with plain sock and with a silicone impregnated sock. The end result was surprising as the silicone sock protected the firearm MUCH better. Basically, the theory behind most fire safes is that they sacrificially protect from heat by off-gassing the insulation product (concrete or gypsum in cheaper safes). This, coupled with the door seal creates a hot, humid environment in the safe during the fire. Depending upon how long after the fire the safe is opened significant rust damage could occur. This is over and above any water penetration caused by the fire department in fighting the fire. The end result is that the silicone impregnated socks help protect the firearms from the humid after-effects of the fire.
The silicone does dissipate, get rubbed-off over the years and I contacted Allen (the manufacturer of some gun socks) and they sent me a bottle of silicone to re-treat the socks as necessary. I put it in a mister/sprayer bottle, turn the sock inside out and lightly spray them if they seem dry. The amount of silicone on the socks is very slight and I have had no problems with it interfering with any other lubrication or anti-rust treatments. The only warning I would make is that if you are planning on refinishing a stock, do NOT get silicone anywhere near it.
Anyway, it was an interesting article and I will try to find it again on the internet.
Best Regards,
WACA Life Member #6284 - Specializing in Pre-64 Winchester .22 Rimfire
steve004 said
Is there a downside to silicone treated?
Silicone itself is supposed to be next to impossible to remove, if you should ever want to. Impervious to the solvents that would remove oil-based products. Whether it can be transferred from the sock to the metal, I don’t know.
clarence said
steve004 said
Is there a downside to silicone treated?Silicone itself is supposed to be next to impossible to remove, if you should ever want to. Impervious to the solvents that would remove oil-based products. Whether it can be transferred from the sock to the metal, I don’t know.
I thought I had heard at one time that silicone (e.g. from a silicone impregnated wiping cloth) applied on the wood – would cause a problem if the wood was to be refinished? Not that I plan to refinish the stocks of any of my rifles.
steve004 said
I thought I had heard at one time that silicone (e.g. from a silicone impregnated wiping cloth) applied on the wood – would cause a problem if the wood was to be refinished? Not that I plan to refinish the stocks of any of my rifles.
Yep, see my response above. I think we are posting simultaneously.
Best Regards,
WACA Life Member #6284 - Specializing in Pre-64 Winchester .22 Rimfire
JWA said
Yep, see my response above. I think we are posting simultaneously.
Best Regards,
Yes, thanks. I just read that now. That’s what I recall hearing.
Most gun safes have just a heat sensitive seal that expands and seals when exposed to extreme heat. This allows smoke if present early in the fire to get inside and cause corrosion, to prevent that I added a second seal outside of the original. The second seal is just a common foam door seal glued in with silicone sealer, it makes the safe air tight. Thankfully I don’t know for sure if this works.
I have always used the silicone socks and I do know they prevent dings and rust during normal storage. No side effects. I have some painting experience on aircraft, and silicone on the surface prior to paint is bad, even using a rag that has been exposed to silicone to wipe prepped surface will fish eye the paint. I would expect the same would happen with varnish. T/R
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