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I recently bought a 94 (circa 1942 production). The Rifle is in very good condition, close to looking brand new. Looks like it was shot very little and then only on nice days. I expected the bore to look like a mirror but that is not the case. I have been cleaning it for 3 days- probably 50 patches and they are still coming out pretty dirty. My experience is black powder; muzzle loader and Sharps 45-70. I have always been very careful about cleaning my guns and always right after a shooting session so I have never had to deal with leading or copper build up. This is my first experience with an older gun that was cleaned better externally than internally. I am using Hoppe’s 9 Bench Rest Copper and Bore Cleaner. I dip a nylon bore brush in the cleaner, run it through the barrel followed by a patch with a couple of drops of Hoppes on a jag and lastly a try patch on a 30 cal jag; then repeat the process. After 20 or so patches and reading the Hoppes bottle I have been running the soaked brush through the barrel, letting it sit overnight and then a dry patch in the morning- that patch always comes out very dark. Even after 5 or 6 rounds of brush and patch the dry patch will come out with streaks of black/gray. I am not seeing signs of copper any more.
I don’t have a bore scope but shinning a light from the breech the back half of the barrel looks pretty good now (I cannot see any pitting in front of the chamber); the front 12″ or so still looks dark.
I am new to lever guns (and really enjoying them) and smokeless powder/ jacketed bullets. Does any one have a better suggestion for a cleaner or cleaning process?
Thanks, JimB
November 7, 2015
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For heavy copper fouling I use a foaming bore cleaner called Wipe Out. Put your 1894 in the rack lever side up and fill the bore with foam. Leave it for at least an hour, maybe overnight. Then push a few patches through it. No need to brush, you’ve already gotten all the loose stuff. You may want to repeat the process but the first time generally does the trick with all but the heaviest copper fouling. After you get all the cleaner out run an oily patch thru it and you’re done!
The foaming bore cleaner is probably the best product to use, though I’ve never seen Wipe-Out. Another good product, available everywhere is Gunslick Foaming Bore Cleaner, which turns to a turquoise color if copper fouling is present. Then you just use it until there is no more color change.
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November 7, 2015
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Wipe-out was the first foaming bore cleaner I used several years ago, Wayne. Small red and yellow can. I think they all work about the same.
Another good one is Kroil. I’ve only used it for a bore cleaner a time or two but it seems to work quite well. I’ve mainly used it for stubborn leading but it seems to work well with copper too.
Wincacher,
Could not find Wipe Out or Kroil but did get Gunslick Foaming Cleaner. Will try that out for a couple of days and report back. Thanks to all
As an aside, went shooting today with my 1892 125th Anniversary in 357 Magnum (Miroku). What a nice package, fun to shoot, accurate- very nicely turned out rifle (yes I know not original but I will eventually find one of those too). Now I have everything to start reloading.
Whenever I’m running low on Kroil, I use this “Google offer”…
Technically, the glass is always full; half liquid, half air....
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November 7, 2015
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rwsem said
Whenever I’m running low on Kroil, I use this “Google offer”…
The aerosol Kroil is great for automotive and machinery applications but I use it in the house so I use the liquid. That’s a great price for the aerosol, BTW. I used to pay about that for the larger cans but had to buy case quantities (for an auto shop) and pay shipping. Midway stocks the liquid, Brownell’s does too. If you buy it from Midway it prevents them from using the UPS/USPS shipping and you get it quicker. Sometimes Brownell’s has a better price and their shipping is a bit more predictable. Kano Labs is only interested in industrial users and doesn’t sell to the supply chains that typically sell to retail consumers. That is why you won’t find it on the shelf.
When you open your first can of Kroil you’ll remember the first old-school gunsmith shop you wandered into, at least I do.
Mike
MidwayUSA is good but the problem with them is slow shipping. They ship everything via UPS which takes about a week and then they turn it over to USPS which add a couple of days more. I can never get anything from them in less than 9 calendar days.
If you are a PRIME member you’ll get it on the 3rd day. qid=1517458296&sr=8-3&keywords=kroil
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