Avatar
Search
Forum Scope




Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
Lost password?
sp_Feed sp_PrintTopic sp_TopicIcon
1886 rebarrel
Avatar
Blueliner
California
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 494
Member Since:
July 19, 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
1
April 25, 2018 - 5:50 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

I’m looking at a 1886 Rifle that has been rebarreled from a 40-65 to a 50 EX.  To do that change, does the receiver internal parts have to have a change made ?

The rifle is in an upcoming auction.

Bill

Avatar
Wincacher
New Mexico
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 1167
Member Since:
December 1, 2012
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
2
April 25, 2018 - 6:41 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

That’s a good question, though I don’t know the answer for certain.  All the 1886 cartridges are based on the 45-70 and have basically the same head design.  The 1886 50 calibers were based on the 45-75 from the Model 1876 and therefore have a larger rim diameter than the other 8 chamberings.  The rim diameter difference is only .01″ so I’m guessing that all the internal receiver guide and lifter parts would be the same.

1876-4-1.jpg

"This is the West, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend." 

Avatar
TR
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 1880
Member Since:
June 4, 2017
sp_UserOnlineSmall Online
3
April 25, 2018 - 9:01 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

 Bill, To convert a 86 to 50 cal requires 9 different cuts to the receiver and related parts. The easiest way is use a real 50 as a pattern. The magazine tube is thinned on the top, the loading gate hole in the receiver, and various internal parts are machined to handle the larger bullet. Not easy to make it work right. The easiest way to tell if a 50 is original is cycle a round and inspect the machine cuts inside. Remember the serial number on a 86 is on the lower tang and easily changed. T/R

Avatar
Blueliner
California
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 494
Member Since:
July 19, 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
4
April 26, 2018 - 2:27 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Thanks guys. I remember reading about the changes to get to 50 cal. But not anything about from which 40 or 45 basis. 

Without any receiver changes from a 40-65, 45-75 or 45-70, will a 50-95 or 50-110 cartridge even cycle ?

 Thanks,

Bill

Avatar
TR
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 1880
Member Since:
June 4, 2017
sp_UserOnlineSmall Online
5
April 26, 2018 - 3:01 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_EditHistory

 Bill, No, the 50-110 will not feed but will fire. You would have to load one shell at a time from the top. The 40-65 is the same receiver as a 38 or 45. The 50-95 and 45-75 are to large for a 86 frame, they only fit the 76. T/R

Forum Timezone: UTC 0
Most Users Ever Online: 4623
Currently Online: steve004, Anthony, TR, mfivefour, [email protected], Blue Ridge Parson, Rhinoboy, Reddogdefense, fzando, Andy
Guest(s) 173
Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)
Top Posters:
clarence: 7119
TXGunNut: 6486
Chuck: 5890
steve004: 5216
1873man: 4706
deerhunter: 2713
Big Larry: 2560
twobit: 2505
mrcvs: 2213
Maverick: 2042
Newest Members:
Andy
James Luoma
DM2012
redfish282000
MFoster
Daltsav
Monk1950
Redcedar7T
KrzHorse
drjjpdc
Forum Stats:
Groups: 1
Forums: 18
Topics: 14827
Posts: 132738

 

Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 2057
Members: 10062
Moderators: 3
Admins: 4
Administrators: Mike Hager, Bert H., JWA, SethJ
Moderators: Rob Kassab, Brad Dunbar, Heather
Navigation