Maverick said

DB said

Maverick said
I don't even know what proof there is that said mirror wasn't made yesterday.
  

Maverick I believe you posted a response when I first submitted this mirror in 2011. 
  

Yeah, I can't find said response.
  

It looks like your posts only go back 13 years. It says you've been a member since 2009. I believe your post on mirror was in 2011. The system must have reset it self years ago and deleted your older posts

DB said

Maverick said
I don't even know what proof there is that said mirror wasn't made yesterday.
  

Maverick I believe you posted a response when I first submitted this mirror in 2011. 
  

Yeah, I can't find said response.

DB said

DB said

Rick C said
DB, as stated in the ad, the asking price is subjective, but seriously, why not try to acquire provenance and a bona fide appraisal if you’re convinced. If it was proven legit, I would be the first one to say wow congratulations and send it to one of the premier auctions to maximize its value. I think you were hoping this post would be positive, but like others have said, even if the real deal, they think it’s still only worth a tiny fraction of the asking price. A well advertised premier auction would confirm soon enough.
Respectfully,
  

The mirror has been scientifically analyzed using Raman Spectroscopy.  The provenance is not something you can just acquire. I know the provenance from 1970 until today. When the mirror was acquired in 1970 it was already considered an antique. It was  77 years old  and was described that way by Lucid lines when they copied the mirrors design for the remake. 
  

DB said

Rick C said
DB, as stated in the ad, the asking price is subjective, but seriously, why not try to acquire provenance and a bona fide appraisal if you’re convinced. If it was proven legit, I would be the first one to say wow congratulations and send it to one of the premier auctions to maximize its value. I think you were hoping this post would be positive, but like others have said, even if the real deal, they think it’s still only worth a tiny fraction of the asking price. A well advertised premier auction would confirm soon enough.
Respectfully,
  

The mirror has been scientifically analyzed using Raman Spectroscopy.  The provenance is not something you can just acquire. I know the provenance from 1970 until today. When the mirror was acquired in 1970 it was already considered an antique. It was  77 years old  and was described that way by Lucid lines when they copied the mirrors design for the remake. 
  

Rick C said
DB, as stated in the ad, the asking price is subjective, but seriously, why not try to acquire provenance and a bona fide appraisal if you’re convinced. If it was proven legit, I would be the first one to say wow congratulations and send it to one of the premier auctions to maximize its value. I think you were hoping this post would be positive, but like others have said, even if the real deal, they think it’s still only worth a tiny fraction of the asking price. A well advertised premier auction would confirm soon enough.
Respectfully,
  

The mirror has been scientifically analyzed using Raman Spectroscopy.  The provenance is not something you can just acquire. I know the provenance from 1970 until today. When the mirror was acquired in 1970 it was already considered an antique. It was  77 years old  and was described that way by Lucid lines when they copied the mirrors design for the remake. 

Respectfully,

DB said

mrcvs said

DB said

mrcvs said

DB said
Antique Winchester reverse painted, inlaid with abalone, advertising mirror made for the 1893 Columbian Worlds expo by Lewis Comfort Tiffany. 99.9 percent of Winchester collectors are unaware that this mirror exists.  There were only two Winchester rifles embellished and displayed by Tiffany for the 1893 expo. Tiffany did not offer Winchester rifles in there sales catalogs. This mirror was the advertising to help publicize the relationship between the two companies. 
  

What makes you think it’s worth $3,000,999?  Three million can still get you A LOT!
To be honest with you, your mirror was manufactured about 40 or 50 years ago, something you see at a flea market for $75, you negotiate to $50 and still question if you didn’t get burned on the deal.
There’s an almost identical one to yours on eBay now for $345 which hasn’t sold because it’s priced at 5 to 10 times what it is worth.
  

The original mirror from 1893 is inlaid with abalone, is reverse painted, and has gold leaf lettering. You are correct that there are copies of the original design that regularly sell on eBay. They were made in the 1970s by lucid lines. 

  

If you were a true collector, you would have some sense of what things are worth and valued.
A finely crafted Tiffany lamp, often one of a kind, with exquisite craftsmanship might bring anywhere from $10,000 to $300k+.  Your mirror is nowhere near the craftsmanship of Tiffany studios.  So, if this were a Winchester rifle, it would be valued similar to other known examples, with usually a footnote stating that if it has a certain rare variation, add 10%, 20%, 50%, etc.
So, if the painted Winchester rifle can be proven to be rare, maybe the only one in existence, you might compare with other known examples and maybe double the value on it.  That’s if anyone even cares and wants to pay more for it.  Which still makes your mirror worth under $100.
  

I appreciate your opinion. Thank you for your response. 
  

Thank you for your politeness and willingness to listen.

Sometimes folks have to hear what they don’t want to.  I want to think that everything I own could be sold for a lavish retirement, as in each individual item.  The reality is otherwise.  If I sold everything it wouldn’t allow me to stop working.

Heres what I would do if I were you.  Given it’s negligible value, I would keep it and enjoy it, if you enjoy it.

If not, I would list on eBay with a $1 start and let the market value it.  And let it go for that.  If you want to ensure you don’t completely give it away, you could list a reserve of $50 .

mrcvs said

DB said

mrcvs said

DB said
Antique Winchester reverse painted, inlaid with abalone, advertising mirror made for the 1893 Columbian Worlds expo by Lewis Comfort Tiffany. 99.9 percent of Winchester collectors are unaware that this mirror exists.  There were only two Winchester rifles embellished and displayed by Tiffany for the 1893 expo. Tiffany did not offer Winchester rifles in there sales catalogs. This mirror was the advertising to help publicize the relationship between the two companies. 
  

What makes you think it’s worth $3,000,999?  Three million can still get you A LOT!
To be honest with you, your mirror was manufactured about 40 or 50 years ago, something you see at a flea market for $75, you negotiate to $50 and still question if you didn’t get burned on the deal.
There’s an almost identical one to yours on eBay now for $345 which hasn’t sold because it’s priced at 5 to 10 times what it is worth.
  

The original mirror from 1893 is inlaid with abalone, is reverse painted, and has gold leaf lettering. You are correct that there are copies of the original design that regularly sell on eBay. They were made in the 1970s by lucid lines. 

  

If you were a true collector, you would have some sense of what things are worth and valued.
A finely crafted Tiffany lamp, often one of a kind, with exquisite craftsmanship might bring anywhere from $10,000 to $300k+.  Your mirror is nowhere near the craftsmanship of Tiffany studios.  So, if this were a Winchester rifle, it would be valued similar to other known examples, with usually a footnote stating that if it has a certain rare variation, add 10%, 20%, 50%, etc.
So, if the painted Winchester rifle can be proven to be rare, maybe the only one in existence, you might compare with other known examples and maybe double the value on it.  That’s if anyone even cares and wants to pay more for it.  Which still makes your mirror worth under $100.
  

I appreciate your opinion. Thank you for your response. 

DB said

mrcvs said

DB said
Antique Winchester reverse painted, inlaid with abalone, advertising mirror made for the 1893 Columbian Worlds expo by Lewis Comfort Tiffany. 99.9 percent of Winchester collectors are unaware that this mirror exists.  There were only two Winchester rifles embellished and displayed by Tiffany for the 1893 expo. Tiffany did not offer Winchester rifles in there sales catalogs. This mirror was the advertising to help publicize the relationship between the two companies. 
  

What makes you think it’s worth $3,000,999?  Three million can still get you A LOT!
To be honest with you, your mirror was manufactured about 40 or 50 years ago, something you see at a flea market for $75, you negotiate to $50 and still question if you didn’t get burned on the deal.
There’s an almost identical one to yours on eBay now for $345 which hasn’t sold because it’s priced at 5 to 10 times what it is worth.
  

The original mirror from 1893 is inlaid with abalone, is reverse painted, and has gold leaf lettering. You are correct that there are copies of the original design that regularly sell on eBay. They were made in the 1970s by lucid lines. 

If you were a true collector, you would have some sense of what things are worth and valued.

A finely crafted Tiffany lamp, often one of a kind, with exquisite craftsmanship might bring anywhere from $10,000 to $300k+.  Your mirror is nowhere near the craftsmanship of Tiffany studios.  So, if this were a Winchester rifle, it would be valued similar to other known examples, with usually a footnote stating that if it has a certain rare variation, add 10%, 20%, 50%, etc.

So, if the painted Winchester rifle can be proven to be rare, maybe the only one in existence, you might compare with other known examples and maybe double the value on it.  That’s if anyone even cares and wants to pay more for it.  Which still makes your mirror worth under $100.

Tedk said
DB,
Any Provenance?
Have you had it appraised?
  

Exactly!!

I’m not sure what’s more insane, me taking the time to reply about a $3,000,000 item with no provenance or bona fide appraisal, or the seller supporting his claims without it. 

mrcvs said

DB said
Antique Winchester reverse painted, inlaid with abalone, advertising mirror made for the 1893 Columbian Worlds expo by Lewis Comfort Tiffany. 99.9 percent of Winchester collectors are unaware that this mirror exists.  There were only two Winchester rifles embellished and displayed by Tiffany for the 1893 expo. Tiffany did not offer Winchester rifles in there sales catalogs. This mirror was the advertising to help publicize the relationship between the two companies. 
  

What makes you think it’s worth $3,000,999?  Three million can still get you A LOT!
To be honest with you, your mirror was manufactured about 40 or 50 years ago, something you see at a flea market for $75, you negotiate to $50 and still question if you didn’t get burned on the deal.
There’s an almost identical one to yours on eBay now for $345 which hasn’t sold because it’s priced at 5 to 10 times what it is worth.
  

The original mirror from 1893 is inlaid with abalone, is reverse painted, and has gold leaf lettering. You are correct that there are copies of the original design that regularly sell on eBay. They were made in the 1970s by lucid lines. 

Tedk said
DB,
Any Provenance?
Have you had it appraised?
  

I purchased it from a man who bought it at an armory auction in london in 1970. He was one of the owners of Lucid lines in Culver City CA.  Lucid lines copied the mirrors design and mass produced it using an acid etched process. 

There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.

BRP 

Tedk said
DB,
Have you had it appraised?
  

I’ll save him the trouble.

$25, it’s something you hang in your basement above your bar.