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                    <title>TXGunNut on Mystery Tang Sight</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Jon-</p>
<p>In all fairness even the sights that seem crude by comparison are often quite cleverly made. I know very little about sights but I always enjoy seeing the precision work and engineering that goes into these little machines. Thanks for posting the additional pics, hopefully someone will have some information for you. Period outdoors magazines seem to be good resources for identifying something like this.</p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2026 01:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Honest Jon on Mystery Tang Sight</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Close up of the maker stamp tells me it is T. J. Field rather than T. R. Removing the sight almost caused me some panic because upon removal I lost the detent for the stem vertical position. However, after looking underneath I saw what looks kind of ingenious. A tiny leaf spring that lays almost flat loses it’s tension when the sight is loosened. Reinstallation by carefully tightening the front and rear screws equally, brought back the detent. It’s not unfair to call this sight crude but must be paired with ingenious to really describe it. See photos.</p>
<p>Very new to this form but let me compliment the admins for providing a simple and straight forward way of posting pix!</p>
<p>yours, Jon</p>
<p>Jon<img data-upload="1" data-width="480" data-height="360" title="IMG_3423.jpeg" alt="IMG_3423.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/honest-jon/2026/07/IMG_3423.jpeg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="480" data-height="360" title="IMG_3422.jpeg" alt="IMG_3422.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/honest-jon/2026/07/IMG_3422.jpeg" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2026 01:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Ben on Mystery Tang Sight</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I did a full review of Tom Rowe's American Rifle Sights book and came up empty.  There is a another maker with an elevation wheel on the staff, it's George Schoyen... but it's not a match.  I owned a couple unmarked sights with that same elevation wheel... never did discover the maker.  I really appreciate Pope sights, both period and reproduction.  They are wonderful works of art... while this one is a bit cruder, I could never come close to matching it's construction.  If you remove it from the rifle, please post pics of the bottom along with the name.  Thanks for posting!  Ben</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 20:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>1873man on Mystery Tang Sight</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>That was the closest one I could find to it. Post a good closeup of the stamp. </p>
<p>Bob</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 00:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>chief1966 on Mystery Tang Sight</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Looks like a poor copy of a HM Pope tang sight!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 00:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Honest Jon on Mystery Tang Sight</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Likely not a Winchester sight as it came with  a Remington Rolling Block that was willed to me. Has anyone seen such a beast?</p>
<p>There is a printed/engraved inscription that appears to read T. R. Field.</p>
<p>I got it cleaned up a bit so it moves properly and it does maintain zero just fine. There’s a tiny set screw that holds the stem firm once it’s set. Whatcha’ think?<img data-upload="1" data-width="2448" data-height="1836" title="IMG_2949.jpeg" alt="IMG_2949.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/honest-jon/2026/07/IMG_2949.jpeg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="3264" data-height="2448" title="IMG_2948.jpeg" alt="IMG_2948.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/honest-jon/2026/07/IMG_2948.jpeg" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2026 21:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Chuck on Winchester 670 Front Sight Removal</title>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2026 17:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Anthony on Lyman 21 "Climbing Lyman" Introduction Date</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I am in agreement with you Gents on the Lyman sight, not looking pleasant on the engraved rifle! Not my cup of tea either, in this case!</p>
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<p>Tony</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2026 15:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>mrcvs on Lyman 21 "Climbing Lyman" Introduction Date</title>
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<p><strong>steve004 said </strong><br />
Burt -<br />
As usual - fantastic rifles!<br />
Bill - <br />
I suspect you are not pleased to see the wonderful engraving on this M1895 to be covered by the Lyman sight:<br />
<a href="https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/4098/29/engraved-and-gold-inlaid-winchester-flatside-model-1895-rifle" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/4098/29/engraved-and-gold-inlaid-winchester-flatside-model-1895-rifle</a><br />
By the way, that is one fantastic .38-72 - half octagon, engraving, gold, fancy wood and checkering... wow.  I will admit that this is an example where the Lyman sight is not a great addition.<br />
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<p>That rifle is ruined because of that sight.  I wonder why it was affixed to this rifle as it’s completely illogical and if factory, I’m surprised the factory would allow it.</p>
<p>What also is illogical, and Bill would agree with this, is a Lyman 21 or 38 sight on a rifle is okay, even if not factory (this can be proven or disproven by removing the sight and examining the drilled holes), even though it means adding a non factory hole to the frame.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2026 12:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Lyman 21 "Climbing Lyman" Introduction Date</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Steve,  You got it. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2026 02:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>steve004 on Lyman 21 "Climbing Lyman" Introduction Date</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Burt -</p>
<p>As usual - fantastic rifles!</p>
<p>Bill - </p>
<p>I suspect you are not pleased to see the wonderful engraving on this M1895 to be covered by the Lyman sight:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/4098/29/engraved-and-gold-inlaid-winchester-flatside-model-1895-rifle" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/4098/29/engraved-and-gold-inlaid-winchester-flatside-model-1895-rifle</a></p>
<p>By the way, that is one fantastic .38-72 - half octagon, engraving, gold, fancy wood and checkering... wow.  I will admit that this is an example where the Lyman sight is not a great addition.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2026 00:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Burt Humphrey on Lyman 21 "Climbing Lyman" Introduction Date</title>
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<p>dimrod said<br />
Ugly???  Come on, Bill!  Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The climbin’ Lyman is my favorite receiver sight on a vintage Winchester, whether it be an 1895, 1894, or 1886. It’s classy, accurate, more robust, and further away from my delicate eyeball. To each his own. <br />
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<p>Durable, reliable and difficult to find in excellent condition.</p>
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<p>still working today - dimrod, one of our WACA members, with a nice Alaska grizzly.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2026 00:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Burt Humphrey on Lyman 21 "Climbing Lyman" Introduction Date</title>
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<p><strong>oldcrankyyankee said </strong><br />
I just want to say that I really like the 21/38's. I think they look sexy on a slab sided Winchester. Pretty functional also, just gotta learn what the ranges are in relation to the marks on it. I maybe biased here because I shot my biggest buck with the 86 on the left! But the one on the right is a 38. Which to me is even better having the windage knob.<br />
BTW, Bert is that beautiful 1895 deluxe in 35 wcf? lol!<br />
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<p>It is</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2026 23:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>oldcrankyyankee on Lyman 21 "Climbing Lyman" Introduction Date</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I just want to say that I really like the 21/38's. I think they look sexy on a slab sided Winchester. Pretty functional also, just gotta learn what the ranges are in relation to the marks on it. I maybe biased here because I shot my biggest buck with the 86 on the left! But the one on the right is a 38. Which to me is even better having the windage knob.</p>
<p>BTW, Bert is that beautiful 1895 deluxe in 35 wcf? lol!<img data-upload="1" data-width="3024" data-height="2268" title="IMG_1226.JPG" alt="IMG_1226.JPG" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/oldcrankyyankee/2026/07/IMG_1226.JPG" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="3024" data-height="2268" title="IMG_1225.JPG" alt="IMG_1225.JPG" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/oldcrankyyankee/2026/07/IMG_1225.JPG" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2026 23:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Anthony on Lyman 21 "Climbing Lyman" Introduction Date</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Burt,</p>
<p>That looks beautiful on there! To me the 1895 was one of the best rifles to hold "The Climbin Lyman" !</p>
<p>Not knocking that M-1893, cj57, put up! I like it on a 94 also!</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing!</p>
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<p>Tony</p>
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