Bert H. said
This is just my opinion... that is an ugly sight, and mounted on an ugly gun
I much prefer the tang sight option that Winchester stuck with through July 1942.  The shift to receiver mounted sights in the post-WW II production years was a mistake (again in my opinion), as I do not care for a lump of steel hanging on the left-hand side of the receiver frame.  The No. 98 series bolt peep sights were innovative and should have been continued beyond the year 1948.
Bert
  

Bert -

I appreciate your opinion.  Given I look at most everything these days through collector's eyes, I can forgive a lot of ugliness in favor of rarity.

I certainly agree about the desirability of the No. 98 series bolt peep.  It was a fine innovation.  Not surprisingly, for a couple decades, there's been a market for the reproduction of that sight.  This includes gunsmiths who specialize in slotting bolts.  And this includes slotting bolts on reproduction Model 1895's.

I much prefer the tang sight option that Winchester stuck with through July 1942.  The shift to receiver mounted sights in the post-WW II production years was a mistake (again in my opinion), as I do not care for a lump of steel hanging on the left-hand side of the receiver frame.  The No. 98 series bolt peep sights were innovative and should have been continued beyond the year 1948.

Bert

The various lever rifles of the day each offered specific challenges for the mounting of scopes and sights.  As top action ejectors, Winchester and Savage lever rifles were less suited than the Marlin for a top mounted sight.  Receiver and tang sights were routinely mounted on Winchester, Savages and Marlins.  There wasn't great need for top mounted sights.  Nonetheless, Marlin decided to capitalize on their top flat receiver surface and in 1903 when they begin placing two tap holes on the top of the receiver of their lever action and slide action rifles (centerfire and rimfire) to accommodate the Hepburn sight. Winchester waited until 1935 to put a top mounted bolt peep on their .348.  Winchester followed with the bolt peeps for the Model 64 and 65, but did not expand to models beyond that.  

I would be fascinated to know what Winchester thought of the Hepburn sight on the Marlin and the extent to which they noodled the idea of their own version. Obviously they ended up there in 1935.  I assume the felt need was minimal given there was already plenty of choices of tang and receiver sights.  However, while factory tang sight holes were typical for Winchester from early on, side receiver sight holes came much later.  Winchester likely monitored Marlin's level of success with their Hepburn sight.  For several decades, most Marlin rifles (including rimfire and centerfire slide actions) were drilled for the Hepburn sight but relatively few were mounted. 

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Bert H. said

danpshack said

danpshack said

Bert H. said
Model 94 s/n 1298492 was manufactured in September 1941 per the original factory records.  The Lyman tang sight on it is period correct.  Which caliber is it?
Bert
  

30-30
  

Is it possible the tang sight came with it from the factory? Or did someone install it after purchase? Did they drill and tap the extra screw for the sight?
  

Yes, it is possible that Winchester installed it, but the odds are much greater that it was installed after the fact.  Winchester drilled & tapped the Model 94 & 64 upper tangs for mounting a peep sight until mid June 1942.
Bert
  

Bert, thanks for the help. This is the second time Ive used you for information. Wealth of knowledge. 

danpshack said

danpshack said

Bert H. said
Model 94 s/n 1298492 was manufactured in September 1941 per the original factory records.  The Lyman tang sight on it is period correct.  Which caliber is it?
Bert
  

30-30
  

Is it possible the tang sight came with it from the factory? Or did someone install it after purchase? Did they drill and tap the extra screw for the sight?
  

Yes, it is possible that Winchester installed it, but the odds are much greater that it was installed after the fact.  Winchester drilled & tapped the Model 94 & 64 upper tangs for mounting a peep sight until mid June 1942.

Bert

Don

If it helps, here are a couple pics of an Olympic with M70 base rail that I have lying around.  It's pretty obvious how they go together; the base attaches to the receiver and the (removable) sight attaches to the base.  I think (???) that your sight is "complete" in the sense that you had to purchase the correct base for your rifle separately.

FWIW... Following up on your original observation, there's no application code that I can find on the base either!!!  Maybe only the box had the code???  The only reason I know this is a M70 base is that I took it off of one...

Best,

Lou

danpshack said

Bert H. said
Model 94 s/n 1298492 was manufactured in September 1941 per the original factory records.  The Lyman tang sight on it is period correct.  Which caliber is it?
Bert
  

30-30
  

Is it possible the tang sight came with it from the factory? Or did someone install it after purchase? Did they drill and tap the extra screw for the sight?

Bert H. said
Model 94 s/n 1298492 was manufactured in September 1941 per the original factory records.  The Lyman tang sight on it is period correct.  Which caliber is it?
Bert
  

30-30

I'm no expert, but IIRC the Redfield Olympics attached to the rifle via a separate (three or four position) base/rail that attaches to the left side of the receiver via the usual pair of receiver sight holes.  The sight itself attaches to the base, and it's the base that has/needs an application code. 

The sight has two holes in which the attaching thumbscrew and be located and the base has three or four holes, allowing for six or eight different eye relief positions.  Your sight does not include an attaching base, but I believe it will work with anything (M52, M75, M70, and multiple other brands) with the correct code base.  There's a base application code table in Nick Strobel's book... 

Lou