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James Eichas on Winchester 1200 RIOT NHPD trade in guns.. Collectible?

Sat, 22 Aug 2026 21:01:12 +0000

Hello All, I have one of these as marked shotguns also. My gun is stamped "NHPD 36" and is serial number #171294. It has a 2 and 3/4" chamber and "jeweled bolt". Has barrel marked "RIOT" and is 18" long. Has barrel marking like #1 in above pics. My gun has a different forearm checkering pattern than ones shown , and quite possibly also at the pistol grip(mine has 3 diamonds) within checkering. Purchased in March 2006 at the Rochester NY gunshow from a local area dealer(Rochester/Buffalo) who "cherry picked" a few of these shotguns from another dealer from PA. I was also remembering something about a "New Haven PD" trade-in that resulted in these surplused guns, as told to me at time of my purchase, by seller. Gun remains in very good overall condition, with a "rack-wear" mark on top of receiver, and a few wood stock dents/abrasions. I never fired gun, but it was loaned to my nephew at deer hunting seaon a few years back for use, yet no game seen nor taken. Back into the gun cabinet it went................Jim Eichas mr97

Corey Freeman on 1897 Slide Action Bar Length

Sat, 22 Aug 2026 20:24:28 +0000

Yep...

I just found that elsewhere...

Guess I have one up for sale then.

Thanks Bert

Bert H. on 1897 Slide Action Bar Length

Sat, 22 Aug 2026 20:19:00 +0000

Yes, there is a length difference for the slide bars between the Solid Frame and the Take Down guns. You bought an early Type-1 slide bar for a Solid Frame gun.

Bert

Corey Freeman on 1897 Slide Action Bar Length

Sat, 22 Aug 2026 19:57:02 +0000

I recently bought a replacement Slide Action Bar for my vintage 1897.

I installed the part and the gun would not cycle properly. After exhausting all of the reasons why it could be doing this, I finally compared the old to the new.

The old one, on the bottom, is much long than the replacement.

Was there a length between the solid frame and the takedown? I don't know why there would be, but stranger things have happened.

cj57 on Winchester 1897 Correcting

Wed, 19 Aug 2026 16:10:53 +0000

Nice job! looks much better

Corey Freeman on Winchester 1897 Correcting

Mon, 17 Aug 2026 21:40:09 +0000

I bought a fairly old (1899) (S/N C 82444) Winchester 1897. It was painfully obvious from the first pic that the previous owner had no clue. That ugly slide handle was screwed on, with non-appropriate screws, and glued to the the slide bar. When I got it off, the screw holes were all fouled up. I got them welded shut, drilled, and re-tapped the holes.

To say it was an education would be an understatement. The new handle is a reproduction, but at least it's period correct. I'll keep looking for an original, but I don't want to have to make a car payment to get it.

The second pic is the new handle installed. I still have to take it for a test drive before I try to antique the finish and locktite the screws.

TXGunNut on A&F Model 21 orphaned barrel, case and tag

Mon, 17 Aug 2026 21:24:49 +0000

Any luck? I was just wondering if someone requested a letter or simply an inquiry. I wasn't aware they kept a history of either.

Mike

James W on Winchester model 50 buttplate

Sun, 16 Aug 2026 13:04:21 +0000

I bought a Winchester buttplate at a gun show last week. Don't know what it is for, though.

winchester nix on Winchester 1200 RIOT NHPD trade in guns.. Collectible?

Sat, 15 Aug 2026 10:57:17 +0000

Hello BigGuy72.

I have concluded that for some reason Winchester made three batches of non standard Model 1200 RIOT Guns, and that you have an example of them, as set out in my letter to BigGuy72 care of 'B Faver', attached. I had to make each page a Jpeg so please find "B. Faver - Model 1200 RIOT# 329286, # 324334 & # 326380 15 Aug 2026 conv 0" to "B. Faver - Model 1200 RIOT# 329286, # 324334 & # 326380 15 Aug 2026 conv 3". You can enlarge them to suit. I just noticed that the letter is dated 12th August - the day after I started it, but you can see I finished it on 15th August 2026.

If you have any queries, please ask. You can see that in my Model 1200 Database I have almost one record of a Model 1200 in every serial number, and sometimes more, but there are a lot of blank spaces I am trying to fill.

Sincerely

Keith

KWD57 on Winchester model 50 buttplate

Sat, 15 Aug 2026 01:52:48 +0000

Thanks guys Jeremy has sold me his model 50 buttplate.

Ken

Jeremy P on CMP 1897 Trench Guns

Thu, 13 Aug 2026 22:14:00 +0000

Bert H. said

That seems like a lot of $$$$ for an M14 rifle, but I suspect that they will all sell quickly.
I have never tried to purchase a firearm from the CMP... how does one go about getting on the list to purchase one? I am considering making an attempt to buy one of the Model 1897 Trench Guns.
Bert

Bert, start here: https://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/eligibility-requirements/ and then go to the Sales & Service menu to look at each process for the individual models for sale. Their web site is kind of an unorganized mess. I believe I heard the club (WACA) now satisfies the requirement to be some sort of "club member" unless I heard that wrong.

When the M14 page releases for sale, it will also have its own separate page with instructions. They recently went to an online form and thank heavens, the old paperwork was a mess too. A true extension of government!

Like I mentioned earlier, I bet the shotguns will depend on condition what they do with them. With such limited numbers they might auction them all or just first come first serve, or even sell them in their stores only.

Ricklin on CMP 1897 Trench Guns

Thu, 13 Aug 2026 20:29:45 +0000

Thanks for the detail Bo rich, I am at an age I SHOULD be reducing numbers, I just ordered up a .22 for my arthritic disabled bride with tip up barrel. Hey I might get to shoot more!

I found an inexpensive way to scratch that full auto itch. Replace powder and primers with about 4 K PSI of air. One can have inexpensive full auto fun up to .30 caliber. Since no fire is involved I shoot full auto in my backyard legally, suppressed of course. The law is no FIREarm discharge within city limits. I do leave the tree rats alone they are like a freakin national treasure here locally. I do need to reduce the Nutria population, I'm just not a night person. Again the locals think the water rats are "cute" surprised there is not a bounty.

I highly recommend PCP if you wish to scratch a full auto itch, a .22 cal mag dump costs about half a buck. .22 pellets are cheap, .22 slugs are more. Limit is about 20 25 grains weight. The heavier slugs will work single shot in my rifle. Pyramyd air has lots of toys, many others as well. PCP is big fun, the world's largest and most dangerous game is falling to air guns.

Bert H. on CMP 1897 Trench Guns

Thu, 13 Aug 2026 17:33:20 +0000

Bo Rich said
I had the same results with the M14. With a three shot burst at 25 yards I hit the x ring on a B27 target with the fist shot. The second shot hit the head, and the third shot was somewhere above that. I saw the CEO of the CMP state that they have just over 400 1897 trench guns that they will sell. He did not go into detail on that. He did say that the M14 semi-auto rifles would be available for sale in January of 2027, and they will be sold at around $2,000 each. Also you could buy two of them if you wanted. The 1911A1 pistols will have a new limit of two a year starting in January. Until then you are limited to four in a lifetime.

That seems like a lot of $$$$ for an M14 rifle, but I suspect that they will all sell quickly.

I have never tried to purchase a firearm from the CMP... how does one go about getting on the list to purchase one? I am considering making an attempt to buy one of the Model 1897 Trench Guns.

Bert

James W on Winchester model 50 buttplate

Thu, 13 Aug 2026 17:22:25 +0000

Check out eBay under Winchester Model 12. Someone is selling new, original buttplates like the ones here in the photos.

Bo Rich on CMP 1897 Trench Guns

Thu, 13 Aug 2026 13:26:39 +0000

I had the same results with the M14. With a three shot burst at 25 yards I hit the x ring on a B27 target with the fist shot. The second shot hit the head, and the third shot was somewhere above that. I saw the CEO of the CMP state that they have just over 400 1897 trench guns that they will sell. He did not go into detail on that. He did say that the M14 semi-auto rifles would be available for sale in January of 2027, and they will be sold at around $2,000 each. Also you could buy two of them if you wanted. The 1911A1 pistols will have a new limit of two a year starting in January. Until then you are limited to four in a lifetime.