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                    <title>James W on New Addition of a Model 12 Possibly 4 Digit S/N</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Good luck with your new gun. I hope you enjoy it. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2026 06:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>86Win on Model 12 Hard Case ?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I found a newspaper article dated Feb. 1, 1953 where a remington  32 shotgun  (2 barrels) SN 2949 had been stolen from a Cassel case.</p>
<p>That is all I have found so far. Don</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2026 04:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>evanderbeck62@gmail.com on Model 12 Hard Case ?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>It's not a factory case my guess from 60's to 70's if it was factory would it not say winchester on it</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2026 01:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Dave M. on Model 12 Hard Case ?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>No one has seen a case like this before?</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2026 13:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Orphan Model 25 "ruined" by Deluxe Polychoke. Really?</title>
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<p>Bill, perfect example of why they make vanilla and chocolate ice cream <br />
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<p>Yeah, Ted but sometimes I think I'm the only guy who likes Pistachio. </p>
<p>I think Bert mentioned he would prefer having internal tubes installed, today. And so would I.</p>
<p>However, Briley Manufacturing gets $299 to install lead/bismuth flush tubes in a pump or automatic. For steel/tungston capable, $329. Those prices are plus shipping and tax and include your choice of 3 tubes. </p>
<p>I've got a high condition field grade, 20 gauge Model 50 with two barrels, one mod and the other full. I'd like to add an IC or Skeet choke but sending the full barrel to Briley would increase my basis in the outfit by a third!  I could sacrifice the full choke by having it reamed to IC.  On reflection, I decided I'd stay with the factory constructions and shoot my occasional Skeet games with something else. If the gun were a 12, I'd likely ream the full barrel to 50%. </p>
<p>Best way to get tubes is to buy a gun that has them. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2026 02:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Orphan Model 25 "ruined" by Deluxe Polychoke. Really?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Dave, I figured. Trying to type with one finger drives me nuts. I've been a touch typist since high school and l like a full size keyboard with real keys. I spend way too much time wrestling with an ignorant spell checker. It's sneaky, too. Sometimes it will change a word after I'm several lines down. If I could shut the thing off I would. </p>
<p>Pumps are noisy and can send a useful signal. But not to squirrels. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2026 02:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on New Addition of a Model 12 Possibly 4 Digit S/N</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Looks honest to me. I like a four-digit gun now and then. I'm a little jealous as your new treasure's SN is the same as my WACA member number. Some days it's good to be a numbers guy.</p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2026 01:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Corey Freeman on New Addition of a Model 12 Possibly 4 Digit S/N</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the title, but I'm a little gun shy from my last posting.</p>
<p>That Model 12 was returned to the seller. This Model 12 is the replacement. It needs some loving, but it'll get plenty here.</p>
<p>This should be a legit 4 digit S/N.</p>
<p>Already ordered some 2.5" shells for it too.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2026 23:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>M64lvr on Orphan Model 25 "ruined" by Deluxe Polychoke. Really?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Idk why i put 3", I get to typing faster than my brain is capable! It was 2 3/4", and I believe i had barrel length on my mind, trying to remember if it was 28" or 30". Im sure it was 28"! But it was one my favorites, but last pump i ever hunted with. I much preferred Singleshot or Auto if anything else! </p>
<p>You get under a big hickory with 5-8 squirrels in it, pump just too noisy, they'll get gone before you can get many shots! </p>
<p>Only 3" I ever owned other than couple singleshots, was a Miroku Browning A5 12ga.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2026 19:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Orphan Model 25 "ruined" by Deluxe Polychoke. Really?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I don't think the 25 was ever offered with a 3" chamber but it wouldn't amaze me if somebody had reamed the chamber out a 1/4 inch. Old Charlie Askins used to "field test" 2.75" chambered shotguns by firing 3" shells in them. Several of them shucked and shot just fine, although I would think chamber pressures would be pretty spicy. Like a proof load. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2026 18:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>jlb on Orphan Model 25 "ruined" by Deluxe Polychoke. Really?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>In the late 50's or early 60's my father ordered a Model 12 12 gauge with a vent rib and polychoke from Simmons.  I seldom shot the gun but it has passed to a grandson who makes short work of doves, quail and pheasants.  It is a lovely gun in his hands as it seems to automatically seek out the target.  Nothing wrong with the polychoke!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2026 14:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>steve004 on Orphan Model 25 "ruined" by Deluxe Polychoke. Really?</title>
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<p><strong>M64lvr said </strong><br />
I had a <strong>Mod 25 12ga 3"</strong> FC that I traded for in i think 1980. It killed most all my squirrels up till mid 80's, and that was the peak years of my squirrel hunts, 75 to 150 every year, and that being working 6 days a week. I was a squirrel hunting thorobred then! That Mod 25, although heavy, was a tight shooter to tops of big timber in these mountains. I went to a Belgian Browning A5 Lite 12, my all time favorite orher than the perfect Mod 37! Had a Mod 12 before this, and the Mod 25 was every bit the gin the Mod 12 was!<br />
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<p>I must not have been paying close attention over the years, but I don't recall the Model 25 being chambered in 3" ?</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2026 23:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Maverick on Model 12 Hard Case ?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Pictures would be most helpful to determine one way or the other. But will add from the start, I have my doubts towards it being the genuine article.</p>
<p>Never say never.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Maverick</p>
<p>P.S. Post some pictures to see what were actually talking about here.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2026 04:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Winchester Model 12 Skeet Gun with Factory Cutts Compensator.</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>David, it is really impossible to do as you ask without good and plentiful photos because condition is where most of the value lies, except for extreme rarities like an original Colt Patterson.  </p>
<p>A factory Model 12 Skeet gun is of interest to a lot of the membership and I'm confident more than a few will chime in and give you their unvarnished views. </p>
<p>However, you are asking these people to devote valuable time. You shouldn't do that unless you are willing to take the trouble to show them what they need to opine. </p>
<p>If you have access to a photo hosting site, post them there and post a link here. In case you don't, I'm going to PM you my email address. Email them to me and I'll post them here for you. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2026 01:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>David McNab on Winchester Model 12 Skeet Gun with Factory Cutts Compensator.</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I have acquired a Model 12 Skeet Gun with a Factory Cutts Compensator - Barrel markings are correct and has the proper flange/shoulder where the Cutts is attached - it came with chokes and the wrench.</p>
<p>Also has a checkered select walnut stock and forearm in excellent condition - butt plate and grip cap are not cracked or chipped and appear to be hard rubber. </p>
<p>Serial # puts it at 1948 - numbers match and "skeet" is stamped below the receiver Sr#.</p>
<p>Bluing is about 80 per cent - butt a couple of "Idiot marks" on the receiver from careless re-assembly - also a couple of dime-size older splotches from surface rust on receiver - I think it was stored long-term in a takedown case.</p>
<p>An interesting gun that I couldn't pass up - first actual one like this I've ever seen.</p>
<p>I had declared "no more model 12's" and had traded my Dave Riffle Model 12 book away - so now I'm without info.</p>
<p>So, Looking for opinions - Are these old Skeet Models with Factory Comp's desired by collectors and any ballpark ideas of a value range ?</p>
<p>I know without providing photo's it's hard to opine but just looking for input. Thx. D.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2026 00:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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