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winchester nix on Winchester 1200 serial number date?

Sat, 08 Aug 2026 22:47:36 +0000

Thanks Bert.

Hi Graemia, Yes I can help you with that. As it happens Winchester used up old stock to supply 20 inch barrels instead of 18 inch barrels but only in Australia and New Zealand. So I need the barrel length and the barrel address when you send photos. You can Private Message me if you wish or direct email to keith.nix@nixenco.com.au or post the photos back here. See my post No 28

I live in Brisbane, and presently in Townsville so will not be on line for another 12 hours

Keith

Corey Freeman on Winchester Model 1912 First Year

Sat, 08 Aug 2026 22:46:37 +0000

The seller actually called me back after I wrote him an email.

Very cordial and is going to take the gun back with a full refund and paying for shipping to him. It was a breath of fresh air.

And a s a minor correction, that's an 1897 that I'm fixing.

Thanks for all of the input.

86Win on Winchester Model 1912 First Year

Sat, 08 Aug 2026 22:25:35 +0000

Now if Mike and my assumption that there are 2 more nos. I would think a search of the ledgers for a a model 1912 with nos. 44001 to 44099 might be beneficial. Don

TXGunNut on Winchester Model 1912 First Year

Sat, 08 Aug 2026 22:11:49 +0000

86Win said
Actually , as an old draftsman of 40 years I would guess the no. would be 440xx to make it concentric to each side of the receiver. I would never have punched anything to the left side only. Don

Don-

I agree there are more numbers, I was thinking the serial number would contain four or six digits but it's hard to tell from the picture. Now I agree the faint "0" appears to be centered on the receiver.

Mike

86Win on Winchester Model 1912 First Year

Sat, 08 Aug 2026 20:38:06 +0000

Actually , as an old draftsman of 40 years I would guess the no. would be 440xx to make it concentric to each side of the receiver. I would never have punched anything to the left side only. Don

Bert H. on Winchester 1200 serial number date?

Sat, 08 Aug 2026 19:52:02 +0000

graemea said
Hi
I just bought this rather rough 1200 Riot, serial number L1369253.
I haven't seen one in NZ before. I'm keen to find out its DOB. Photos to come when I can work out how to attach and send.
Cheers, Graeme

If Keith (winchester nix) does not see your post, try sending him a PM... he is practically your neighbor.

Bert

graemea on Winchester 1200 serial number date?

Sat, 08 Aug 2026 19:29:19 +0000

I just bought this rather rough 1200 Riot, serial number L1369253.

I haven't seen one in NZ before. I'm keen to find out its DOB. Photos to come when I can work out how to attach and send.

Cheers, Graeme

Ricklin on A&F Model 21 orphaned barrel, case and tag

Sat, 08 Aug 2026 18:09:10 +0000

Good thinkin Bill. In addition to the donation to Cody write the email for the staffer so they can simply plug in the email address or put it in an envelope and snail mail it to the last individual that enquired.

I know I would be thrilled to reunite the set were I the owner. What you have now has much greater worth if it can find it's way home.

Bert H. on Winchester Model 1912 First Year

Sat, 08 Aug 2026 17:43:45 +0000

Corey Freeman said
I have a 1987 that I have to finish fixing

Now you are barking up the right tree

Bert H. on Winchester Model 1912 First Year

Sat, 08 Aug 2026 17:39:10 +0000

I agree... it looks like it is "440".

S/N 17968 = March 1913

Bert

Corey Freeman on Winchester Model 1912 First Year

Sat, 08 Aug 2026 17:32:24 +0000

Closer looks at pics and tool marks are evident. Looks like the next number is a 0...

Just 2 weeks before I bought a low 5 digit one and it has the proper presentation.

Bert H. on model 37 shootguns

Sat, 08 Aug 2026 16:19:14 +0000

Ricklin said
21 bucks for the takedown gun
12 bucks for another barrel
I would assume take down was a requirement for Addl. barrels. Given a solid frame gun was only 16, 4 dollars more bought an entire gun.
Now we know why 2 and 3 barrel sets are not often seen.

Of the (108) Single Shot 20-ga Shotguns that I have found and documented thus far, (64) of them are Take Downs, and none of them have a second interchangeable barrel. With the only option being a different choke, there was very little reason to order a second barrel. Of the (108) found thus far, (90) are FULL choke, (10) are MOD choke, and (8) are CYL bore.

Bert

Corey Freeman on Winchester Model 1912 First Year

Sat, 08 Aug 2026 16:15:52 +0000

I have a 1987 that I have to finish fixing then I'll document the 1912 better while investigating.

Ricklin on Model 12"s

Sat, 08 Aug 2026 16:11:51 +0000

Since they have been reblued a trap or skeet mark may get another hundred bucks or so. The rebluing is the kiss of death for collectors.

Across the pond fine English guns can be returned to the manufacturer to be reblacked and that enhances their value. Here in the good old USA? Colt did offer factory refinishing for many years. I do not know what services for Colt guns are still available. I rather doubt that service is still avalable.

Winchester used different types of finishing process's over their history. That can make determining the originality the task of an expert. Often and expert on that particular model.

Then of course there is Turnbull who can actually make an old gun new. Turnbull now includes internal marks on their gun restorations to keep sellers honest. In most cases a Turnbull restoration is more costly than buying a near perfect example of the same gun. I guess some folks fortunes do change.

Ricklin on Winchester Model 42 .410 Pump Action

Sat, 08 Aug 2026 14:56:32 +0000

Very popular with collectors. Make sure you get all the money. The closed auctions on gunbroker are very useful, the asking prices are often someones fantasy. For common everyday guns closed Gunbroker auctions are practically gospel. For highly collectable guns, not very reliable.