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                    <title>James W on Simmons vent rib</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I am never all that successful at emails, either. I call people. You might try that. Good luck. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2026 12:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Anthony on Jasper Salerno's Model 12..........</title>
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<p><strong>James W said </strong><br />
Okay. And here's another one sports fans. A beautiful Model 12 belonging to baseball great Ty Cobb. It is #103649141 on the Guns International website. For the mere price of $75,000. A lot of discussion going on over the internet about this one!!<br />
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<p>James,</p>
<p>With your statement, a link provided would be a courtesy here to the members and greatly appreciated.</p>
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<p>Tony</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2026 11:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>James W on Jasper Salerno's Model 12..........</title>
                    <link>https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-shotguns/jasper-salernos-model-12/#p181078</link>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Okay. And here's another one sports fans. A beautiful Model 12 belonging to baseball great Ty Cobb. It is #103649141 on the Guns International website. For the mere price of $75,000. A lot of discussion going on over the internet about this one!!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2026 03:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>MotorCDR on Model 1897 takedown question</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>So, they accounted for the additional length of the takedown.  That's what I needed to know, thanks.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2026 20:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Model 1897 takedown question</title>
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<p><strong>MotorCDR said </strong><br />
Okay, before I do any cutting, is the bbl length supposed to be an EXACT 20" from breech face to muzzle?  Sometimes manufacturers fudge the numbers a little for convenience, such as a revolver with 2-1/4 inch bbl length being commonly called a "2-inch" . . .<br />
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<p>The Solid frame guns were 20".  The later Take Down guns were usually 20.5".</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2026 19:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Model 1897 takedown question</title>
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<p><strong>rogertherelic said </strong><br />
I am curious, weren't the 1897 Trench Guns all solid frame guns?  I thought with the 'heat sheild' in place the magazine tube couldn't be rotated?  RDB<br />
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<p>Roger,</p>
<p>All of the WW I Model 1897 Trench Guns were the Solid frame variation.  The WW II Model 97 Trench Guns were all Take Downs.</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2026 19:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>rogertherelic on Model 1897 takedown question</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I am curious, weren't the 1897 Trench Guns all solid frame guns?  I thought with the 'heat sheild' in place the magazine tube couldn't be rotated?  RDB</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2026 19:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>MotorCDR on Model 1897 takedown question</title>
                    <link>https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-shotguns/model-1897-takedown-question/#p181068</link>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Okay, before I do any cutting, is the bbl length supposed to be an EXACT 20" from breech face to muzzle?  Sometimes manufacturers fudge the numbers a little for convenience, such as a revolver with 2-1/4 inch bbl length being commonly called a "2-inch" . . .</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2026 15:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Jasper Salerno's Model 12..........</title>
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<p><strong>Zebulon said </strong><br />
I would guess this is one case of a Cutts Compensator not adversely affecting value. <br />
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<p>Just as long as there is no factory choke marking on the barrel...</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2026 01:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Jasper Salerno's Model 12..........</title>
                    <link>https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-shotguns/jasper-salernos-model-12/#p180989</link>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I would guess this is one case of a Cutts Compensator not adversely affecting value. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2026 23:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>James W on Jasper Salerno's Model 12..........</title>
                    <link>https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-shotguns/jasper-salernos-model-12/#p180909</link>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Gorgeous. Thanks for sharing. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2026 22:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>MidwestCrisis on Jasper Salerno's Model 12..........</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/1047/4700/jasper-salerno-engraved-winchester-model-12-slide-action-shotgun" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/1047/4700/jasper-salerno-engraved-winchester-model-12-slide-action-shotgun</a></p>
<p>Here’s one that sold in 2024.  Neat guns.  </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2026 20:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Jasper Salerno's Model 12..........</title>
                    <link>https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-shotguns/jasper-salernos-model-12/#p180903</link>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/shotguns/winchester-shotguns-model-12/winchester-model-12-jasper-salerno.cfm?gun_id=102819578" target="_blank">Winchester Model 12 Jasper Salerno for sale (gunsinternational.com)</a></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2026 17:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>tionesta1 on model 37 shootguns</title>
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<p><strong>Bo Rich said </strong><br />
I read that the Model 37 kept Winchester afloat financially.  So, I believe that it was a very important gun for them.  It is a very well made single shot shotgun that has a nice look to it.  The modified hammer is very quick to use, and it even ejects its empties!  <br />
   A collection of these can be had for a very modest cost, with the exception of the 28 gauge Model.  Which should always be a Red Letter.  Even the rarer beginners 20 gauge model can be bought cheaply when found.  The 32” barrel guns are kinda neat, and they too won’t put the collector back very much.  The .410 Model  can also be found very affordable.   Even high condition models can be found today modestly priced.  Maybe, not for everybody.  But, if a collector wanted to keep his cost down, and still have a nice collection of Winchesters.  I can see that this might be appealing.<br />
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<p>I agree Bo</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2026 16:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bo Rich on model 37 shootguns</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I read that the Model 37 kept Winchester afloat financially.  So, I believe that it was a very important gun for them.  It is a very well made single shot shotgun that has a nice look to it.  The modified hammer is very quick to use, and it even ejects its empties!  <br />
   A collection of these can be had for a very modest cost, with the exception of the 28 gauge Model.  Which should always be a Red Letter.  Even the rarer beginners 20 gauge model can be bought cheaply when found.  The 32” barrel guns are kinda neat, and they too won’t put the collector back very much.  The .410 Model  can also be found very affordable.   Even high condition models can be found today modestly priced.  Maybe, not for everybody.  But, if a collector wanted to keep his cost down, and still have a nice collection of Winchesters.  I can see that this might be appealing.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2026 14:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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