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Bert H. on 1897 military marks

Sun, 08 Nov 2026 21:13:28 +0000

TonyG said
I came across this just the other day. I know the heat shield has been replaced but was curious about the military marks. If they look legit or not. The serial number comes back as a 1910. It also looks to me like it has been refinished at some point (just looks too good for a 1910).

100% FAKE martial markings and gun!

Bert

TonyG on 1897 military marks

Sun, 08 Nov 2026 20:53:16 +0000

Ricklin on Model 1912 12 GA Barrel configuration

Sun, 08 Nov 2026 20:03:59 +0000

The choke, rib and 32" barrell makes me think you have someones old trap gun. Is it a graded gun? They are marked trap or skeet if so graded. You can measure to determine if the stock has been cut should you desire getting rid of the white line pad which is not original. Reproductions of the original butt plate are available from Connecticut shotgun. Very original looking gun, other than the pad. If you are lucky the stock may not have been cut down. I do like a good pad on an M-12 for trap, I like extra weight too for a dedicated trap gun. Extra weight and a good pad means I can still shoot my M12, I prefer it's "modern replacement the Super X 1 is my main squeeze for trap.

Ricklin on Shotgun cartridge belt

Sun, 08 Nov 2026 19:50:41 +0000

Compare the dog's head to the one seen on the butt of Parker shotguns. Similar?

TonyG on 1897 military marks

Sun, 08 Nov 2026 19:45:40 +0000

When I get back home I’ll see what happened to the photos.

cj57 on 1897 military marks

Sun, 08 Nov 2026 18:20:46 +0000

Where's the photos?

Bert H. on 1897 military marks

Sun, 08 Nov 2026 18:03:24 +0000

Tom D said
1910 is too early for a legit trench gun.

Concur!

Tom D on 1897 military marks

Sun, 08 Nov 2026 17:46:17 +0000

1910 is too early for a legit trench gun.

TonyG on 1897 military marks

Sun, 08 Nov 2026 16:35:52 +0000

I came across this just the other day. I know the heat shield has been replaced but was curious about the military marks. If they look legit or not. The serial number comes back as a 1910. It also looks to me like it has been refinished at some point (just looks too good for a 1910).

EWMN on Model 1897 takedown question

Sun, 08 Nov 2026 16:30:16 +0000

this was a interesting article.

cj57 on Shotgun cartridge belt

Fri, 06 Nov 2026 00:39:26 +0000

oldcrankyyankee said

cj57 said
Has anyone seen this belt before, it has dog head buckle with brass clips that hold 12ga shells. Not sure if the dog head is associated with Remington or Winchester?

Cool old belt CJ.. I would have liked that back in my duck hunting days..

Thanks! It appears it was made in the 1890s- 1900, it goes well with my old shotguns

oldcrankyyankee on Shotgun cartridge belt

Thu, 05 Nov 2026 23:53:00 +0000

cj57 said
Has anyone seen this belt before, it has dog head buckle with brass clips that hold 12ga shells. Not sure if the dog head is associated with Remington or Winchester?

Cool old belt CJ.. I would have liked that back in my duck hunting days..

Chuck on Shotgun cartridge belt

Thu, 05 Nov 2026 20:56:51 +0000

Winchester made a hand full of belt buckles. I am not sure if they all were marked? They did make a dog head that is not exactly the same as this one, but is similar.

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Henry Mero on Shotgun cartridge belt

Thu, 05 Nov 2026 17:41:47 +0000

I haven't seen thatbelt, but if it was a Winchester it should be stamped accordingly.

cj57 on Shotgun cartridge belt

Thu, 05 Nov 2026 17:31:35 +0000

Has anyone seen this belt before, it has dog head buckle with brass clips that hold 12ga shells. Not sure if the dog head is associated with Remington or Winchester?