Winchester Collector - Forum: Winchester Shotguns https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-shotguns/ Simple:Press Version 6.11.14 steve004 on Pre-war Model 42 solid rib https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-shotguns/pre-war-model-42-solid-rib/#p184606 Winchester Shotguns https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-shotguns/pre-war-model-42-solid-rib/#p184606 That Model 42 shotgun is a pleasure to see.  I've always admired them and wished I would have picked one up when they were more affordable (they were sitting new on store shelves when I was in grade school).

Sadly, I've never owned a Model 42.  However, I do have a repeating .410 shotgun made just a couple years before the M42 came out:

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george@georgeamlott.com said
Bert,
I’ll have to let my wallet catch it’s breath before I go back to his house again….
  

Run an oxygen tube into it!  Probably need that tube hooked up to a big cannister.  Set it on high flow!

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I’ll have to let my wallet catch it’s breath before I go back to his house again….

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steve004 said
 
What caliber is the Savage in?
  

.300

]]> Sun, 20 Sep 2026 18:20:31 +0000 steve004 on Pre-war Model 42 solid rib https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-shotguns/pre-war-model-42-solid-rib/#p184599 Winchester Shotguns https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-shotguns/pre-war-model-42-solid-rib/#p184599 Bert has provided you with some darn good advice - definitely keep buying them!

 

What caliber is the Savage in?

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Bert H. said
George,
My recommendation is to commit yourself to buying every gun that your older friend offers you.  He apparently had a very discerning eye, and he assembled a collection of very fine old Winchesters.
Bert
  

I have !!!!!

Even a few from other teams…😎

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]]> Sun, 20 Sep 2026 18:00:54 +0000 Bert H. on Pre-war Model 42 solid rib https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-shotguns/pre-war-model-42-solid-rib/#p184592 Winchester Shotguns https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-shotguns/pre-war-model-42-solid-rib/#p184592 George,

My recommendation is to commit yourself to buying every gun that your older friend offers you.  He apparently had a very discerning eye, and he assembled a collection of very fine old Winchesters. Cool

Bert

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Jim91 said

 

Bert,
Is there any way for me to research whether the recoil pad was installed by Winchester during an R&R?
  

Unfortunately, No, there is not.  The original factory ledger records for the Model 1897 end at serial number 377999. 

The clues that it may have been installed by Winchester are; (1) the type of pad that it is (Jotsam), (2) the black backing spacer, (3) the LOP, and (4) the fit to the stock.

Bert

]]> Sun, 20 Sep 2026 16:35:01 +0000 TXGunNut on Pre-war Model 42 solid rib https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-shotguns/pre-war-model-42-solid-rib/#p184579 Winchester Shotguns https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-shotguns/pre-war-model-42-solid-rib/#p184579 Another very nice score! There's something about a nice 42. Thanks for posting the pics, they look great to me.

 

Mike

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Bert H. said

Jim91 said

Bert H. said
Jim,
You are welcome, and the Jotsam recoil pad is definitely period correct to the gun.  It has undoubtedly been on the butt stock for nearly the entire life of the gun, and very likely several years before Winchester began offering their own recoil pads (in 1922).  It is possible that it was installed by Winchester during an "R&R".  What is the LOP?
Bert
  

Attaching a pick for LOP. Do you think the butt was cut down to accommodate the pad?
  

Yes, the butt stock was shortened to install the recoil pad.  It does appear to be vert close to the correct LOP for a Tournament Gun.  Per the catalog description, the LOP for the Tournament Guns was 14".

Bert
  

Bert,

Is there any way for me to research whether the recoil pad was installed by Winchester during an R&R?

]]> Sun, 20 Sep 2026 13:48:42 +0000 george@georgeamlott.com on Pre-war Model 42 solid rib https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-shotguns/pre-war-model-42-solid-rib/#p184576 Winchester Shotguns https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-shotguns/pre-war-model-42-solid-rib/#p184576 Again….. sorry for the glare.  Good natural light has been absent here in Northern Michigan the last few days 🤨

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]]> Sun, 20 Sep 2026 13:31:21 +0000 george@georgeamlott.com on Pre-war Model 42 solid rib https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-shotguns/pre-war-model-42-solid-rib/#p184573 Winchester Shotguns https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-shotguns/pre-war-model-42-solid-rib/#p184573 Here’s another of the recent additions to my collection.  This little shotgun is beautiful! Feels very comfortable in my hands.  Might have to take it out in search of Northern Michigan grouse….

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Jim91 said   

Also, do you know if mine is a solid frame design (vs. a takedown design)? I don’t know if one is better or rarer than the other.
Again, very much appreciate the education!

Your gun is a Take Down.  It is my belief that all of the Tournament Guns were Take Downs (no Solid frames).

Bert

  

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