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                    <title>Zebulon on Winchester model 50 buttplate</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Ken,  the serial of my M50 is 66520 with a DOM of 1956. The buttplate is of the same style as Jeremy's 129029. </p>
<p>Because 47473 is 20,000 serials lower than mine, even though guns were not assembled in serial number order amd Winchester was known for never throwing any useable part away, I would conclude the more elaborate round logo style seen on 47473 was either;</p>
<p>1. An anomaly or parts cleanup.</p>
<p>Or</p>
<p>2. Earlier standard for the Model 50, superseded by the one-line style seen by serial 66520 and continued through serial 129029. </p>
<p>Because your 80267 falls well between both Jeremy's and mine, I think.any factory buttplate originally on your gun <em>except </em>the one-line style would be anomalous.</p>
<p>If you cannot find one and if the butt of your stock is still radiused for a plate and not squared off for the existingj pad,  perhaps you should consider installing a round logo reproduction as an interim step while continuing to search for the one-liner. </p>
<p>My views on Winchester shotguns are different than some.of our more obsessive collectors.  I think anyone who owns and actually shoots a 12 gauge shotgun with express loads and doesn't fit it with a pad is likely not the sharpest knife in the drawer, having lost more than a few points of IQ from being battered repeatedly. </p>
<p>The Model 50 was not a popular product because it weighed more than a fairy's wings and its short recoil system was doomed to lose against the emerging gas guns. </p>
<p>If mine is any measure of their market value, they are still unpopular because It's a 95-97% modified choke 1956 gun I knocked down on GB for an embarrassingly low $349. </p>
<p>Unless your Model 50 is a 99.9% gun in the original box complete with hangtags and papers, I don't think its value is going to be degraded materially because it has the "wrong" buttplate for its date of manufacture, particularly if its a reproduction.  </p>
<p>At a guess, nobody makes a reproduction of the "right" buttplate because it isn't very attractive. The earlier one is more stylish and lots of reproductions of it are available. </p>
<p>If you persist and can find a used "right" plate, the odds of it being undersized and ill fitting are good because final shaping of the stock was done with oversize buttplate installed. </p>
<p>Just my perspective. I am more concerned about appearance and utility because I shoot what I own. I appreciate that many others disagree. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2026 21:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Corey Freeman on Winchester Model 1912 First Year</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>You're correct, no rib.</p>
<p>It's in really good shape. I'll have to try and get some measurements on it.</p>
<p>If I could figure out how to post a pic, I most certainly would.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2026 20:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Ricklin on Simmons vent rib</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I concur 100% Simmons has ben around a very long time and worked pretty closely with the Winchester factory for vent ribs.</p>
<p>They were a very popular choice to have a rib added thus the offset or non offset proof mark evidence we have to go on today. Many an original gun could be worth more were it not wearing a Simmons rib. The Simmons rib makes a collector a shooter.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2026 20:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>James W on Winchester Model 1912 First Year</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>You are right! I forgot there were no ribs on the first Model 12s. I spoke before I thought about that. Thanks for correcting me. But we would still love to see some pics. Thanks. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2026 20:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Ricklin on Winchester Model 1912 First Year</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Pics, post the pics. Should not be any rib on serial 44. Wow just wow. That is way cool, very strange the SN not listed in the auction.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2026 20:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>KWD57 on Winchester model 50 buttplate</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>47473 has a buttplate that is different with the round logo, it doesn't appear to be a repo plate. If someone has a model 50 between 47,473 and 80,267 I would appreciate a picture.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Ken</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2026 14:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Jeremy P on Winchester model 50 buttplate</title>
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<p><strong>M64lvr said </strong><br />
I remember his old Mod 11, (i think is the correct mod#?) The one you worked the action by pushing in on the barrel? <br />
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<p>You are correct!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2026 14:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>M64lvr on Winchester model 50 buttplate</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I still have my dads Mod 50, which he got from a friend in 1980. I always figured the buttplate had been changed, these pics confirm it. All us old squirrel hunters used our guns as climbing-walking sticks, thus plastic gets broken! I refinished the wood and my brother had it reblued for him not long after he got it, cause it was beat up badly. It still today looks as good as it did after total refinishing, almost. It turned out his overall favorite Winchester 12ga, which he used many since the 40s squirrel hunting! He would only own Winchester Shotguns, but was understanding of us owning a few Browning n Remingtons! He never did! I remember his old Mod 11, (i think is the correct mod#?) The one you worked the action by pushing in on the barrel? But I hunted it few times myself in 80's. His Strong 2nd favorite was his Mod 1400, which I still remember the box when he brought it home, i believe 1966+- a year. He eventually would laugh at it. When we camped, he'd leave it outside the tent, which we always questioned? He'd laugh and say, Ah I could lay it in the creek overnight it wouldn't hurt it! Believe he was right, but that gun served him 100% faithfully until he got the Mod 50. He never picked up another gun, to go into the woods after the Mod 50 thru his last hunts in mid 80's! My youngest boy killed his first squirrel with it aprox 2000, probably first shot fired since dad. I killed a turkey with it 2005. Bedt my memory its last hunt!</p>
<p>It's Sr # 105248, made 1957 if I remember correctly?</p>
<p>He lived Mod 12's but didn't like pumps. He had one early made, a 20ga, Nickel Steel 26" Mod Barrel that i swear was 97% condition! Like an idiot, he let me trade it to a Mod 25 12ga 30" Full,  yes better for squirrels! I slayed lotta squirrels with it up until in early 80's when I traded it to a Belgian Browning A5 Light 12, my all time favorite, other than my Mod 37's, just better in mountains hunting squirrels!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2026 14:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Winchester model 50 buttplate</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Ken,  I don't think the buttplate changed on the Model 50 during its production. The Model 59, which was nothing more than the 50 Lightweight except for the Dupont barrel, had the same buttplate. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2026 01:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>KWD57 on Winchester model 50 buttplate</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks guys I saw one near the 100,000 serial range and it was as Bill had a link to so hopefully someone has a gun closer to the 80,000 number to see what I need to look for. I really appreciate you guys checking your shotguns.</p>
<p>Ken</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2026 00:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Jeremy P on Winchester model 50 buttplate</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Here is BP from sn 129029</p>
<p> </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2026 22:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Jeremy P on Winchester model 50 buttplate</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<blockquote class="spPostEmbedQuote">
<p><strong>Zebulon said </strong><br />
A trying day at the cop shop?<br />
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<p>Every day is one of those.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2026 22:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>XLIV on Winchester model 50 buttplate</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Here is sn 47473</p>
<p><a href="https://postimg.cc/8fkJ8rdS" target="_blank">https://postimg.cc/8fkJ8rdS</a></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2026 21:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Winchester model 50 buttplate</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>A trying day at the cop shop?</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2026 21:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Jeremy P on Winchester model 50 buttplate</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I can confirm when I get home as well if someone reminds me!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2026 21:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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