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                    <title>Zebulon on John Olin's M-50 2-Gun Set </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>The late John M. Olin was responsible for keeping Winchester in the business of making firearms, in an increasingly difficult labor environment, for a long time. He was an unabashed lover of Winchester guns and we owe his memory a debt. </p>
<p>However, I am not sure about his taste in highly decorated arms. It may be that the Custom Shop was going over the top to impress the boss. </p>
<p>In any event, at least some of the guns made for him were, in my opinion, garish. The Grand American made for him is festooned with gold inlaid figures, for example.  It reminds me of the arms ordered up by obscure but oil-rich Middle Eastern  potentates. </p>
<p>Maybe I'm overly sensitive in these matters from living in or near the City of Wretched Excess for a half Century. Rifles encrusted with Gold and Platinum and stocks of exotic woods carved and inlaid with ivory charging lions.....</p>
<p>The Model 50 shotgun, in its field grade, is a sleek and handsome shotgun the lines of which are reminiscent of the Model 12. Along with the Models 66, 88, and 100 rifles, the 50/59 guns are especially pleasing to the eye.  They do not require and are actually diminished by applied ornament. Especially Gold or Silver washes and other disruptive embellishment. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2026 13:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Anthony #5411 on John Olin's M-50 2-Gun Set </title>
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<p><strong>TXGunNut said </strong></p>
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<p>Anthony #5411 said<br />
Here's a shot at John Olin's Winchester Model 50 two Gun Set, for sale!<br />
It's only $40,000.00 Grand, for  the PAIR!<br />
<a href="https://www.americantrapshooter.com/threads/john-olins-personal-winchester-model-50s-2-gun-set.33318/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.americantrapshooter.com/threads/john-olins-personal-winchester-model-50s-2-gun-set.33318/</a><br />
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Tony<br />
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<p>I'd want to see some solid documentation of the Cody Museum story and even then, they're still Model 50's, the Rodney Dangerfield of Winchester shotguns. I'm sure John Olin had dozens of Winchesters so that doesn't really mean much to some collectors. The 20 would be interesting, especially if we could see it next to a regular production M50 20ga. <br />
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Mike<br />
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<p>Mike,</p>
<p>I'm in complete agreement with you on you're statements! They do nothing for me at all! I would have a hard time with spending half of that on those!</p>
<p>Tony</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2026 10:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on Model 1912  12 GA Barrel configuration</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>OP and pics indicate the receiver is ribbed, barrel is not. At least that's what I'm seeing.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2026 02:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on Model 1897 takedown question</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I worked with a gentleman years ago who told me about a WWII training program that used clay bird throwers. The trainee and a shotgun were in some sort of fixture or harness in the back of a moving truck or jeep. I can see where that would simulate hitting a moving target from a moving platform. The vehicle was driven down a track so I suppose it wouldn't have all the bounces of the WWI version. And I thought 5-Stand was tough!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2026 02:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on John Olin's M-50 2-Gun Set </title>
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<p><strong>Anthony #5411 said </strong><br />
Here's a shot at John Olin's Winchester Model 50 two Gun Set, for sale!<br />
It's only $40,000.00 Grand, for  the PAIR!<br />
<a href="https://www.americantrapshooter.com/threads/john-olins-personal-winchester-model-50s-2-gun-set.33318/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.americantrapshooter.com/threads/john-olins-personal-winchester-model-50s-2-gun-set.33318/</a><br />
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Tony<br />
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<p>I'd want to see some solid documentation of the Cody Museum story and even then, they're still Model 50's, the Rodney Dangerfield of Winchester shotguns. I'm sure John Olin had dozens of Winchesters so that doesn't really mean much to some collectors. The 20 would be interesting, especially if we could see it next to a regular production M50 20ga. </p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2026 01:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Anthony #5411 on John Olin's M-50 2-Gun Set </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Here's a shot at John Olin's Winchester Model 50 two Gun Set, for sale!</p>
<p>It's only $40,000.00 Grand, for  the PAIR! <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Smile" alt="Smile" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" /></p>
<p><a href="https://www.americantrapshooter.com/threads/john-olins-personal-winchester-model-50s-2-gun-set.33318/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.americantrapshooter.com/threads/john-olins-personal-winchester-model-50s-2-gun-set.33318/</a></p>
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<p>Tony</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2026 23:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>cj57 on Shotgun cartridge belt</title>
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<p><strong>Chuck said </strong><br />
I may have confused some people with my first post.  Winchester made a hand full of different animals for the commercial market.  But made many thousands for the Military market.  These don't have animals.  Anson Mills bought 10's of thousands of buckles for his Mills belts.<br />
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parker shotgun dogs head - Search<br />
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<p>The parker dog head is similar but his head's facing the opposite direction. It doesn't have any makers marks, it may be from a smaller leather makers or sold from catalogs like Sears, I think it's cool </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2026 17:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TonyG on 1897 military marks</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I thought as much, just wanted conformation. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2026 22:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Chuck on Shotgun cartridge belt</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I may have confused some people with my first post.  Winchester made a hand full of different animals for the commercial market.  But made many thousands for the Military market.  These don't have animals.  Anson Mills bought 10's of thousands of buckles for his Mills belts.</p>
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<p><a href="https://www.bing.com/search?q=parker+shotgun+dogs+head&amp;form=ANNTH1&amp;refig=6af0f027f5404b4198d6288f39729359&amp;pc=DCTS" target="_blank">parker shotgun dogs head - Search</a></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2026 22:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on 1897 military marks</title>
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<p><strong>TonyG said </strong><br />
I came across this just the other day. I know the heat shield has been replaced but was curious about the military marks. If they look legit or not. The serial number comes back as a 1910. It also looks to me like it has been refinished at some point (just looks too good for a 1910).<br />
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<p>100% <strong><span style="color: #ff0000">FAKE</span></strong> martial markings and gun!</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2026 21:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TonyG on 1897 military marks</title>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2026 20:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Ricklin on Model 1912  12 GA Barrel configuration</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>The choke, rib and 32" barrell makes me think you have someones old trap gun. Is it a graded gun? They are marked trap or skeet if so graded. You can measure to determine if the stock has been cut should you desire getting rid of the white line pad which is not original. Reproductions of the original butt plate are available from Connecticut shotgun. Very original looking gun, other than the pad. If you are lucky the stock may not have been cut down. I do like a good pad on an M-12 for trap, I like extra weight too for a dedicated trap gun. Extra weight and a good pad means I can still shoot my M12, I prefer it's "modern replacement the Super X 1 is my main squeeze for trap.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2026 20:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Ricklin on Shotgun cartridge belt</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Compare the dog's head to the one seen on the butt of Parker shotguns. Similar?</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2026 19:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TonyG on 1897 military marks</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>When I get back home I’ll see what happened to the photos. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2026 19:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>cj57 on 1897 military marks</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Where's the photos?</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2026 18:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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