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                    <title>Bo Rich on model 37 shootguns</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I read that the Model 37 kept Winchester afloat financially.  So, I believe that it was a very important gun for them.  It is a very well made single shot shotgun that has a nice look to it.  The modified hammer is very quick to use, and it even ejects its empties!  <br />
   A collection of these can be had for a very modest cost, with the exception of the 28 gauge Model.  Which should always be a Red Letter.  Even the rarer beginners 20 gauge model can be bought cheaply when found.  The 32” barrel guns are kinda neat, and they too won’t put the collector back very much.  The .410 Model  can also be found very affordable.   Even high condition models can be found today modestly priced.  Maybe, not for everybody.  But, if a collector wanted to keep his cost down, and still have a nice collection of Winchesters.  I can see that this might be appealing.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2026 14:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Anthony on model 37 shootguns</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>A late friend of mine had over a dozen of them and would get excited talking about a "Red lettered one". Didn't do anything for me as I listened as friends do. I found it funny, because we used to travel everywhere buying up collections or individual pieces, as we had some great times doing it, and his famous line was that he didn't do shotguns! LOL! Then some later years as we kinda both slowed down and things changed in the market as far as buying things. He wound up with several of those darn things, that never grew on me.</p>
<p>Once again, "Different Strokes"! </p>
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<p>Tony</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2026 13:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>James W on Jasper Salerno's Model 12..........</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I see that Jasper Salerno's Model 12 is for sale on Guns International. It is a beautiful gun. If you want to check it out it is number: 102819578. Just type that number into the QUICK SEARCH box at the top of the page. It is truly a gorgeous job of engraving. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2026 12:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on model 37 shootguns</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>The Model 37 was, in my youth, the Cadillac of single barrel shotguns - unless you want to include the Ithaca trap gun of which we were ignorant. </p>
<p>I was recently given a postwar Model 37 16 gauge by a declining friend. I have no immediate need for it but it has been very well cared for and will make a fine teaching tool for somebody some day.</p>
<p>The original plastic buttplate is gone and a deteriorated aftermarket pad had been screwed on. The stock was never cut square and I have the correct buttplate that I need to install and sand to size. </p>
<p>On the other hand, it would make a better teaching tool if it had a modest soft pad. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2026 12:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on model 37 shootguns</title>
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<p><strong>James Hollander said </strong><br />
picked up a model 37 shotgun in 28 gauge  red letter used great shape.<br />
how rare are these  1st one i every came across in wyoming.thanks. the millbilly.<br />
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<p>I know very little about these sturdy little shotguns and suspect the low value may have an effect on collector interest. The single shot shotgun was the unsung hero of the American frontier but the Model 37 missed that by a few decades. I think the Model 37 may have been used to put a few rabbits and game birds on the table or may have defended garden plots. I think they were competing with "hardware store" shotguns and then as now, the price tag influenced most decisions during this time period. </p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2026 22:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on model 37 shootguns</title>
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<p><strong>tionesta1 said </strong><br />
James,<br />
I don't know how many model 37's were made in 28 gauge but from what I understand, it's very rare. Maybe Bert, or someone here will have an idea or estimate as to how many 28 gauges were made compared to other gauges.  We'd love to see pictures of it.<br />
Al  <br />
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<p>Because the Model 37 was never serialized, and there are zero production records for it, there is no way to even estimate how many 28-ga Model 37 shotguns were manufactured.  All that can be stated with any assurity, is that the production was significantly less than the garden variety 12-ga.</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2026 22:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>tionesta1 on model 37 shootguns</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>James,</p>
<p>I don't know how many model 37's were made in 28 gauge but from what I understand, it's very rare. Maybe Bert, or someone here will have an idea or estimate as to how many 28 gauges were made compared to other gauges.  We'd love to see pictures of it.</p>
<p>Al  </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2026 22:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>James Hollander on model 37 shootguns</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>picked up a model 37 shotgun in 28 gauge  red letter used great shape.</p>
<p>how rare are these  1st one i every came across in wyoming.thanks. the millbilly.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2026 20:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Duckman1975 on Simmons vent rib</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I have been trying to contact someone at Simmons in reference to obtaining any information they may have on my 1939 heavy duck, serial # 807777 as there is a Simmons Kansas City Missouri VR on this 30” barrel. No one answers any of my emails so I’m unsure if they even offer the service of reviewing any records they may have. Anyone here have any further information concerning Simmons and their past record keeping? Thanks, Larry </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2026 20:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Chuck on US Marked Winchester 37</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>In U.S. Winchester Trench and Riot Guns by Joe Poyer he says that 9,300 Win Model 25 riot shotguns were purchased by the Defense Dept in 1954.  Serial number range 64069 to 73405.  Evidently around 2,000 were found in Viet Nam and were inspected by Australian Collector Arms in the 1980's and 1990's.  These had unit and rack numbers painted on the stocks.</p>
<p>Combat Shotguns by Canfield states that 5,400 Model 37 shotguns were purchased from Winchester between 1941 and 1942.  A small amount of Model 24's  were also purchased. </p>
<p>The only reference info he states.  1942, 1943, 1944 and 1945 Tables of Government Contracts Winchester Arms Collection Archives.  World War II Files.  Harold McCracken Research Library , Buffalo Bill Historical Center.  Courtesy Herbert Houze. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2026 19:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Tom D on US Marked Winchester 37</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Lou,</p>
<p>I do not know if there is a way to look up the Government sales.  You might try and contact Bruce Canfield.  He somehow obtained the information on the M37 acquisitions and may be able to help.  Last known contact I have for him is below.</p>
<p><a href="mailto:collect@brucecanfield.com" rel="noopener" target="_blank">collect@brucecanfield.com</a></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2026 18:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Louis Luttrell on US Marked Winchester 37</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Tom D-</p>
<p>Speaking of ordnance records...  Do you know if there is a way (publicly accessible database) to look up these US Government sales from the purchaser's side based on the Contract Number given in the Quotations and Orders ledgers?  For example, DA-W-478-ORD-535-42-2361  714X  1942 in the above excerpt.</p>
<p>Reason I ask is that I'd like to track down military (USMC and SOD) purchases of Model 70s from the Government side.  There are similar contract numbers on those entries, but it there a record of receipt?  The USMC rifles are well documented, both in the ledger and in a follow-up letter from Edwin Pugsly to USMC that confirms the number purchased/shipped (he was trying - unsuccessfully - to solicit further sales so he also tells them what Winchester's warehouse inventory of 30-06 M70s was at the time).  But there was another big order from SOD (a couple thousand M70s) and I've never seen anything about it...  They were "quoted" and an order was placed (there is a Contract Number), but was the order actually filled?</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Lou</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2026 18:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on US Marked Winchester 37</title>
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<p><strong>Tom D said </strong><br />
Lou is correct.  There are ordnance records that show over 5,400 M37s were acquired, many sent to the Springfield Ordnance District.  No one knows if they were martially marked.<br />
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<p>The odds are very high that they were not ordnance marked... if they had been, at least a few hundred of them would have been found by now.</p>
<p>I also do not believe that the Government would have put serial numbers on them.  Rack or inventory numbers would have been much more likely.</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2026 17:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Tom D on US Marked Winchester 37</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Lou is correct.  There are ordnance records that show over 5,400 M37s were acquired, many sent to the Springfield Ordnance District.  No one knows if they were martially marked.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2026 17:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on US Marked Winchester 37</title>
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<p><strong>Bert H. said </strong><br />
Somewhere in the cobwebs occupying space inside of my head, I seem to remember that Winchester Model 37s were purchased by the DOD for use as Line Throwing Guns (US Navy &#038; Coast Guard).  There are no documented cases of use by regular troops (Army).<br />
Bert<br />
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<p>I don't doubt that Uncle Sugar bought a few Model 37's but I feel pretty sure they would have been serialized as part of the contract or would have some type of inventory number applied. I've read of other Winchester models normally not serialized that were serialized when part of a government contract. I have cobweb issues as well but I'd be more inclined to believe the ordnance markings if it had some type of serial number or something similar. </p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2026 17:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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