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                    <title>Bert H. on Winchester Model 1912 First Year</title>
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<p><strong>Corey Freeman said </strong></p>
<p>And a s a minor correction, that's an 1897 that I'm fixing.</p>
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<p>I knew what you were trying to tell us.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2026 23:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Winchester Model 1912 First Year</title>
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<p><strong>86Win said </strong><br />
Now if Mike and my assumption that there are 2 more nos. I would think a search of the ledgers for a a model 1912 with nos. 44001 to 44099 might be beneficial. Don<br />
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<p>Don,</p>
<p>There are no ledgers for the Model 1912.</p>
<p>The number can be no more than 5-digits.  A 6-digit serial number beginning with "440" would be a Model 12 versus a Model 1912.</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2026 23:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>winchester nix on Winchester 1200 serial number date? </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Bert.</p>
<p>Hi Graemia, Yes I can help you with that.  As it happens Winchester used up old stock to supply 20 inch barrels instead of 18 inch barrels but only in Australia and New Zealand. So I need the barrel length and the barrel address when you send photos.  You can Private Message me if you wish or direct email to <a href="mailto:keith.nix@nixenco.com.au" target="_blank">keith.nix@nixenco.com.au</a> or post the photos back here.  See my post No 28</p>
<p>I live in Brisbane, and presently in Townsville so will not be on line for another 12 hours</p>
<p>Keith</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2026 22:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Corey Freeman on Winchester Model 1912 First Year</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>The seller actually called me back after I wrote him an email.</p>
<p>Very cordial and is going to take the gun back with a full refund and paying for shipping to him. It was a breath of fresh air.</p>
<p>And a s a minor correction, that's an 1897 that I'm fixing.</p>
<p>Thanks for all of the input.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2026 22:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>86Win on Winchester Model 1912 First Year</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Now if Mike and my assumption that there are 2 more nos. I would think a search of the ledgers for a a model 1912 with nos. 44001 to 44099 might be beneficial. Don</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2026 22:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on Winchester Model 1912 First Year</title>
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<strong>86Win said </strong><br />
Actually , as an old draftsman of 40 years I would guess the no. would be 440xx to make it concentric to each side of the receiver. I would never have punched anything to the left side only. Don<br />
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<p>Don-</p>
<p>I agree there are more numbers, I was thinking the serial number would contain four or six digits but it's hard to tell from the picture. Now I agree the faint "0" appears to be centered on the receiver.</p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2026 22:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>86Win on Winchester Model 1912 First Year</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Actually , as an old draftsman of 40 years I would guess the no. would be 440xx to make it concentric to each side of the receiver. I would never have punched anything to the left side only. Don</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2026 20:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Winchester 1200 serial number date? </title>
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<p><strong>graemea said </strong><br />
Hi<br />
I just bought this rather rough 1200 Riot, serial number L1369253.<br />
I haven't seen one in NZ before. I'm keen to find out its DOB.  Photos to come when I can work out how to attach and send.<br />
Cheers, Graeme<br />
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<p>If Keith (winchester nix) does not see your post, try sending him a PM... he is practically your neighbor.</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2026 19:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>graemea on Winchester 1200 serial number date? </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hi</p>
<p>I just bought this rather rough 1200 Riot, serial number L1369253.</p>
<p>I haven't seen one in NZ before. I'm keen to find out its DOB.  Photos to come when I can work out how to attach and send.</p>
<p>Cheers, Graeme</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2026 19:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Ricklin on A&#038;F Model 21 orphaned barrel, case and tag</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Good thinkin Bill. In addition to the donation to Cody write the email for the staffer so they can simply plug in the email address or put it in an envelope and snail mail it to the last individual that enquired.</p>
<p>I know I would be thrilled to reunite the set were I the owner. What you have now has much greater worth if it can find it's way home.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2026 18:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Winchester Model 1912 First Year</title>
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<p><strong>Corey Freeman said </strong><br />
I have a 1987 that I have to finish fixing <br />
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<p>Now you are barking up the right tree <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Cool" alt="Cool" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-cool.gif" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2026 17:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Winchester Model 1912 First Year</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I agree... it looks like it is "440".</p>
<p>S/N 17968 = March 1913</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2026 17:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Corey Freeman on Winchester Model 1912 First Year</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Closer looks at pics and tool marks are evident. Looks like the next number is a 0...</p>
<p>Just 2 weeks before I bought a low 5 digit one and it has the proper presentation.<img data-upload="1" data-width="547" data-height="535" title="Investigate-5-S_N-Close-Up.jpg" alt="Investigate-5-S_N-Close-Up.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/dewey/2026/08/Investigate-5-S_N-Close-Up.jpg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="1448" data-height="2519" title="Serial-Number-for-1914.jpg" alt="Serial-Number-for-1914.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/dewey/2026/08/Serial-Number-for-1914.jpg" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2026 17:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on model 37 shootguns</title>
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<p><strong>Ricklin said </strong><br />
21 bucks for the takedown gun<br />
12 bucks for another barrel<br />
I would assume take down was a requirement for Addl. barrels. Given a solid frame gun was only 16, 4 dollars more bought an entire gun.<br />
Now we know why 2 and 3 barrel sets are not often seen.<br />
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<p>Of the (108) Single Shot 20-ga Shotguns that I have found and documented thus far, (64) of them are Take Downs, and none of them have a second interchangeable barrel.  With the only option being a different choke, there was very little reason to order a second barrel.  Of the (108) found thus far, (90) are FULL choke, (10) are MOD choke, and (8) are CYL bore.</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2026 16:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Corey Freeman on Winchester Model 1912 First Year</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I have a 1987 that I have to finish fixing then I'll document the 1912 better while investigating.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2026 16:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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