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Winchester Model 12 28 Gauge in the Uplands
November 30, 2016
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My shooting buddy is a 28ga/410 fan, seemed like a good idea after his shoulder surgery. With rifle & pistol loading & casting I really don’t want to get into loading shotgun shells so I’m pretty much limited to what I can afford to buy. That excludes the 28 and the 410 as I’m a pretty prolific trap and occasional skeet shooter. Must admit, the 28ga is a pretty sweet round.

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 I guess its like everything else.There are fans of the 28 gauge and those who are not fans.Nice to hear there are others using the gauge.Now if a few Winchester 28 gauge owners would start using theirs, it would be great.Would have others to talk about the use of their Winchester 28 gauges with,other than just post what I have been able to bag.Smile

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28 gauge and others,

  I used to shoot a lot of skeet.  The 28 ga. was a favorite of mine and I carried a fairly high average with that gauge.  I still love to shoot and hunt with that gauge, but the opportunities are far more limited for me now, so I enjoy the accounts vicariously.  I do not have a Winchester model 12 in the gauge, but do have a Browning version model 12 in 28 ga that I do occasionally use for doves in September.  The last few years I have used my semi custom made Connecticut Shotgun Manufacturing side by side in 28 ga, and the poor model 12 resides in its cabinet.  We no longer have huntable populations of quail, and I no longer have access to pen raised pheasants, so doves is about all the 28 ga. is used for anymore.  

  Keep the stories coming.  I do enjoy them.  I can envision hunting grouse, as I did get to hunt them when stationed at Ft. Drum, NY.  I have a pair mounted and on the wall I shot late season with a Winchester model 101 super lightweight in 28 ga!

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November 30, 2016
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Bert H. said
Never been a fan of the 28-ga. My go to gun is a 1962 Browning Auto-5 Light Twenty.
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Interesting – I too am a 20 gauge fan and bought the 1st Browning Auto-5 Light Twenty that I saw in 1958 at age 16.  I shoot left handed so ordered it with a left-handed safety.  It is still my go-to scatter gun for upland game.  I have graduated to a Remington Model 1100 in left handed action for ducks and geese.

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 The Winchester Model 12 28 gauge and I were out this afternoon and picked up three rabbits.SmileMy but the partridge(ruffed grouse) are scarce in my area this year.Did see one today as I was driving from one spot to another,but none while I was in the field.

 

  Yes Tim, the Winchester Model 101 28 gauge are fine guns.Have one that I used a bit back in the late 80’s early 90’s time frame.What became of your Winchester 101 28 gauge?What do you use in your 28 gauges for a hunting load?

 

 I have one of the Browning Model 12 versions as well.Only used it a small bit,but did bring home some game with it.

 

 I have heard of the CSMC 28 gauge SXS guns ,but have never seen one in person.From pictures I have seen and accounts I have read, they appear to be really good guns.

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Bert H. said
Never been a fan of the 28-ga. My go to gun is a 1962 Browning Auto-5 Light Twenty.

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My dad was a 20ga fan; bought a Mossberg bolt gun to hunt pheasant when he was growing up in NE. He thought Texans were silly to hunt dove with a 12ga. I passed his old 20 along to the next generation awhile back but I keep a 20ga 725 Citori around for when I’m feeling nostalgic. Nice change of pace from my heavy trap gun.

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28 ga and others,

I bought the super light 28 ga. Winchester model 101 the day after my son was born in 1984.  It was for him, and he now has it.  

I use a lot of handloaded 28 ga. ammo.  My recipe used DuPont (then IMR) PB powder which has been discontinued for some years.  I preferred the old Remington SP hull.  When I run out of those components, I do have a case of Remington loads designed for sporting clays, with a 3/4 oz load of 7 and 1/2’s at a muzzle velocity somewhere faster than the old skeet load standard of 1200 fps.  I don’t recall the exact muzzle velocity of the new stuff, and have yet to really shoot it.  I expect I will have to do so soon as I am about out of the stock of old, obsolete components!

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28 ga and others,

I bought the super light 28 ga. Winchester model 101 the day after my son was born in 1984.  It was for him, and he now has it.  

I use a lot of handloaded 28 ga. ammo.  My recipe used DuPont (then IMR) PB powder which has been discontinued for some years.  I preferred the old Remington SP hull.  When I run out of those components, I do have a case of Remington loads designed for sporting clays, with a 3/4 oz load of 7 and 1/2’s at a muzzle velocity somewhere faster than the old skeet load standard of 1200 fps.  I don’t recall the exact muzzle velocity of the new stuff, and have yet to really shoot it.  I expect I will have to do so soon as I am about out of the stock of old, obsolete components!

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 Nice to hear the Model 101 28 gauge is still in family hands.Does your son use the gun?If so ,what for?

 I still have some of the old Remington 28 gauge hulls that used the #57 primers.Also some of the factory loaded shells.Have some #57 primers for reloading,but of late years I have not done much 28 gauge loading.Mostly just load for the rifles.

 

  Also still have a little SR 4756 that I used for one of my loads and that has been discontinued as well as your PB was.

 

  Do you know what the weight of your son’s 28 gauge Model 101 is?The weight of my Model 28 gauge Model 101 is 6 pounds 13.35 ounces.

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 Heavy rain for most of yeaterday.Did get out for a bit ,but saw nothing.Had the Winchester Model 12 28 gauge out this afternoon and was able to bag six rabbits.

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28 gauge,

I don’t know the exact weight of the 28 ga, super light.  I do know it is lighter than the normal 28 ga. 101.  Most of the weight savings was by reducing the wood, in my humble opinion, as it is english gripped (straight) and the forend is slimmer.  They also skeletonized the ribs between the barrels.  I don’t think the barrels are slimmed any, nor is the receiver.  It balances well, but is a little light for me to shoot well with it.  

I would suspect that one of these days my son will shoot some skeet with it, and then maybe some doves.  It is choked improved cylinder and modified, which in my opinion is a little tight.  I had CSMC choke my side by side skeet and improved cylinder.  Initially they were reluctant to do so, but the barrel man talked with me and said “sure!”.  It works well for doves at least.  Likely would for quail were they around in huntable numbers.  Might be a little open were I to try pheasants.  Now, grouse in the woods?  Could be pretty good. 

For all this, I do most of my hunting with a 12 ga., as that is what I pretty much started with after the .410 single shot.  My brother and I were introduced to shotgunning with a Bridge Gun Co. .410 with 2 and 1/2 in chamber (grandpa used it for treed coons when he was young).  We then moved up to Remington model 11’s in 12 ga.  All our family shot humpbacks, either the model 11 Remington or Browning Autoloaders, all full choked.  My first new gun was a Browning Auto 5 I purchased in spring of 1968.  Later in life, I moved on to fixed breech shotguns when I shot skeet after reporting for active duty in 1973.  I tried skeet to begin with with my Remington or Browning, with its 30 inch full choked barrel.  Didn’t take long to figure I needed to change something!  I will occasionally get one or the other out for old time’s sake, but now notice all the action working between shots.  Never realized that when they were all I used.

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 Some nice information and insight there Tim. I had a Remington Model 11 and at present still have a Browning Auto 5,although I have not used it for quite sometime.

 Was not able to get out yesterday and no hunting is allowed on Sunday.Hope to get out for a bit tomorrow.

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 Out again this afternoon with the 28 gauge Winchester Model 12 and came home with three rabbits(snowshoe hare).

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Hey 28, I’m getting concerned about the abundance of wildlife in your immediate area !ConfusedKiss

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Hey 28, I’m getting concerned about the abundance of wildlife in your immediate area !ConfusedKiss

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Hello Bill.Seem to be a lot of rabbits this year.Must be at or close to the top of their cycle.Cannot remember ever bagging this many rabbits ,this early in the season.Partridge(ruffed grouse) seem to be very scarce.Bagged only 4 and have seen may be 10 or 12.After the dry summer we had, I thought there would be some around.

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I remember some great walks with my Dad on northern Minnesota logging roads in the fall looking for Partridge after a morning duck hunt.

i also remember getting lost in the woods chasing one down….

an early lesson !!

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Blueliner said

I remember some great walks with my Dad on northern Minnesota logging roads in the fall looking for Partridge after a morning duck hunt.

i also remember getting lost in the woods chasing one down….

an early lesson !!

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 Some great memories there Bill.Tell us the story of getting lost chasing the partridge down.Were you able to bag the bird?

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The old logging road I was walking down ( alone ) ended at an old burnt out bridge. I’d walked it many times before, but this time I shot and missed the bird enough he flew further into the woods, but was hit. After chasing into the woods, I found the bird, I bent over and picked it up, then stood up and looked around. I’ll never forget that feeling ! Where did I come from ?

Nothing looked familiar. I just stood there and thought of all the things my father had said over the years about the woods and where you are if lost. I fired 3 shots as quick as I could with my old Sears ( Meridian ) single shot 20 gauge. Then hollered a bit. Then tried to do some reverse tracking, but not go too far. Then, knowing the river was one direction, and the road was 90 degrees another direction, I gave it my best guess, with the sky and best instinct and moved for the time I thought it took to get back there…..best damned road I ever saw popped up !

End of story, but never forgotten for future ventures into the woods.

I don’t recommend my method to anyone….look around before you take off into unfamiliar territory !

From a Former City Kid,

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 Great story and great advice,Bill.

Off for a hunt in a bit.Will post later my results for the day.

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 Had the old Winchester Model 12 28 gauge out for a short hunt this afternoon.Came home with a partridge and a rabbit.

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 The Winchester Model 12 28 gauge and I were out this afternoon.Bagged a rabbit,it was quite a long shot,39 paces.Also saw a partridge,but could not get a shot off at it.

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