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                    <title>Louis Luttrell on Seeking opinions on this model 70</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Honestly Ted...</p>
<p>I sometimes have trouble with the early machine checkered stocks that were "cleaned up" by hand.  The hand checkering panels got much smaller (more in length than width) by the late 1950s, but the machine checkered panels (IMHO) are far narrower than those laid out by hand.  Also the fore end cross section was made more "square" and the grip radius adjusted slightly to accommodate the checkering machine, but those differences are often hard to see in pictures...</p>
<p>This one (an Alaskan) is machine checkered, and very close in serial number to the subject rifle...</p>
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<p>Lou</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 17:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Tedk on Seeking opinions on this model 70</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>My mistake re. machine checkering vs. hand checkering Lou 🙂</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 17:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Louis Luttrell on Seeking opinions on this model 70</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I don't see anything obviously wrong with the rifle...</p>
<p>G7039, Standard Grade 300 H&#038;H Magnum rifle with Monte Carlo stock. Type III-4 action. Lyman 16B rear sight (should have a 0.360" tall Win 103E front sight). The plastic butt plate and late HAND checkered stock are appropriate for the 1961 DOM.  If you're expecting machine checkering, keep in mind that the 300 H&#038;H stocks were unique to that one catalog symbol (longer magazine well inside), and like many other "specialized" stocks, they tend to keep turning up after some of the common stocks (shared by multiple catalog symbols) had mostly gone to machine checkering.</p>
<p>The box, of corrugated cardboard (not pasteboard) and stamped "OLIN Winchester-Western Division" on top is (I think) OK for a 1961 gun.  The end label appears to be OK...   They don't show much else or say that there's any paperwork within the box.  If it's there it should most likely have the same Corporate address as the box unless it's been cobbled together.</p>
<p>Whether the set (gun + box) is worth the auction estimate ($3,000 - $4,500 plus another 25% or so by the time it's delivered) is up to the potential bidder to decide...</p>
<p>Just my take...</p>
<p>Lou</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 17:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Tedk on Seeking opinions on this model 70</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Dimrod, that looks like a very nice gun.</p>
<p>Since you indicate that you know little to nothing about M70’s you should be aware that this is a late production gun with the smaller, machine checkering pattern and hard rubber butt plate. Some collectors (myself included) prefer the earlier production guns that feature the larger, hand cut checkering pattern and checkered steel butt plate. Another consideration is the Monte Carlo stock on this gun vs. the classic, low comb stock found on the earlier guns</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 14:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bo Rich on Seeking opinions on this model 70</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>The box although a little beat up looks to be original, and matches the rifle.  The rifle looks correct.  I would need to have it in my hands for a final approval.  Now, if I was interested in the rifle.  I would like to see the inside of the box.  Along with the paper work, and tags that are included.  The hag tag should not be generic.  It should list the chambering, and barrel length.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 14:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>dimrod on Seeking opinions on this model 70</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I know little to nothing about the model 70.  My son desires to obtain a pre-64 specimen and he’s enamored with the 300 H&#038;H cartridge. I see this one up for sale in the May RIA. What do knowledgeable forum members have to say about it?</p>
<p><a href="https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/4097/1479/pre64-winchester-model-70-bolt-action-rifle-in-300-hh-magnum" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/4097/1479/pre64-winchester-model-70-bolt-action-rifle-in-300-hh-magnum</a></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 08:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Chuck on Cody Letter help request </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like a nice gun.  I agree with Mike and Bill the second stock would have been finished to fit the second action.   We don't know you.  Become a Member and we can PM. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2026 18:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>426crown on Cody Letter help request </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it was ordered that way--display fancy checkered stock, hunt with plain pistol grip? Bill</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2026 18:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on Cody Letter help request </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I would interpret that as the extra stock needed to be fit to the receiver (or action). Some degree of hand fitting was usually required.</p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2026 17:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Model 94 30-30</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Winchester stamped the "W" on many thousands of Model 94 (and Model 64) receiver frames from February 1939 through February 1941.  Serial number 1230928 was a manufactured in June 1940, and it is more than likely a standard Carbine.  Can you post a picture of the factory roll marking on the upper tang?  I suspect that it has a Type 6 marking, but it could be a Type 7.</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2026 15:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TrevReiten on Cody Letter help request </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I'll try posting this again, the first and attempt apparently didn't go through - not exactly a phone friendly forum 😁</p>
<p>I just got a Cody Museum letter for my 1903 manufactured model 1894. Since I can't post a photo of it here, I'll type the details verbatim. It appears to have shipped with a spare plain stock... But the 'action to interchange' is the bit that I don't understand.</p>
<p>Serial number applied on September 15, 1903</p>
<p>Type: Rifle</p>
<p>Caliber: 38/55</p>
<p>Barrel Type: Octagon</p>
<p>Trigger: Plain</p>
<p>Fancy, Pistol grip stock</p>
<p>Takedown</p>
<p>One Plain, Pistol grip stock and action to interchange</p>
<p>Received in warehouse on September 24, 1903</p>
<p>Shipped from warehouse on October 16, 1903, Order number 199013</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2026 09:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>F.K. on 45-110/ 45-120 cartridges in the 1885</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much, guys! I will look it up... much appreciated! </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2026 07:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Hotchkiss10 on Model 94 30-30</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p><img data-upload="1" data-width="1170" data-height="2532" title="IMG_6728.png" alt="IMG_6728.png" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/hotchkiss10/2026/04/IMG_6728.png" />Was going through some model 94s this evening and saw this W mark on the bottom of one rifle. It looks to be just the standard rifle. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2026 02:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on 45-110/ 45-120 cartridges in the 1885</title>
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<p><strong>F.K. said </strong><br />
Hi everyone, <br />
does anybody have exact numbers of how many 1885s were made for the 45-120-550 or the 45-110 Sharps cartridge and in what years, possibly?<br />
I think these are absolutely fascinating cartridges... <br />
My hopes are on Bert  😀 <br />
Thank you so much! <br />
  </p>
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<p>As Bill pointed out, my article discussing the many (98 of them in total) different cartridges that were chambered in the Single Shot is the only accurate source of information.</p>
<p>Winchester introduced the 45 Sharps cartridges in the April 1886 catalog, but they were available from the inception of the Single Shot in September 1885.  It was the January 1896 catalog that discontinued the 45 Sharps cartridges, though they could still be special ordered. </p>
<p>The 45-120 was usually listed in the ledger records as "45-3¼".  In my research survey, just two rifles have been found after serial number 79999.  The highest known serial number is 96419, received in the warehouse in January 1904.</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2026 16:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>426crown on 45-110/ 45-120 cartridges in the 1885</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Felix--Bert listed these in Winter 2021 article of the 1885. The 45 EX was 631, the 45 Sharps was 5 different rounds -total of 113...</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2026 12:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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