steve004 said
I've gone back and read the Winter 1985 and Spring 1989 articles by Art Gogan, the summer 2012 Rick Hill article, and then reviewed the information Bob R. had in his book.  These references, combined with all the WACA forum posts come together to make quite the story.
  

Steve-

This thread has renewed interest for me as I've nearly finished Bob R's Trilogy book. I'm presently bogged down in the catalog reprints at the end, fascinating stuff. Thanks for the tip on the Gogan and Hill articles. It's interesting that new info is still emerging on these nearly hundred-year-old carbines.

Mike

Uplander said
OK recently came into possession of this 1910 1895 TD. I would say it has been redone but still for the price I got it for I am still happy.  It has a trapdoor ammo storage compartment in the stock with I am assuming is the onetime owners name on it. It is very interesting as i have found absolutely nothing on this kind of storage compartment anywhere. Any one here ever seen  anything like it. i am tempted to return it to stock but it is so interesting that I may not..........
  

I personally haven't seen it on a M-1895, but we have seen this on other manufactured Rifles, as mainly on the higher grade and possibly foreign made European made rifles.

Nice looking Rifle! If it we're mine I would leave it alone! What caliber is it?

Tony

steve004 said
I've gone back and read the Winter 1985 and Spring 1989 articles by Art Gogan, the summer 2012 Rick Hill article, and then reviewed the information Bob R. had in his book.  These references, combined with all the WACA forum posts come together to make quite the story.
  

Steve,

I found myself doing the same thing, and more than once, as each time I picked up something else as far as learning something. 

I don't have Bert's memory and have to refresh my, like my PC!

I'm in agreement as it's quite the timeline of research posted here, as brought to our attention. 

Tony

Pictures of the engraving would be nice to see. The only Pope I have knowledge of is H. M. Pope a barrel maker. Does the barrel have the standard barrel address? As a guest you have to upload the photos to a third party host site and link to them otherwise you can email them to me at the below address.

Bob

steve004 said
I'm wondering about the customers who purchased these carbines - if they gave any thought to the variation from the standard carbine?  The model 1894 and model 94 went through many variations - so it wasn't all that unusual for a carbine to show up that wasn't identical to earlier versions.  I suppose that the variation that used the musket barrel, and had a magazine tube that didn't reach to the end of the barrel, would logically have attracted the most notice. Maybe when they showed up a dealer's stores, those dealers might have noticed?  And is it possible they were discounted in some way?
  

Steve,

I'm thinking so. Especially during that time period. Travel back then, wasn't what it is today. My point is that they we're mfg in 1928, and even towards the end of that year, they we're in the General stores, of the times, and in the dealers presence for sale during some tough economic times. A discount of some sort back then, for all the above and obvious reasons. IMO.

Tony

Chuck said

Bert H. said
Just as an FYI, it is not possible to "rechamber" a 30-03 barrel to 30-06 without first cutting the entire chamber off of the barrel.  
 
Bert
  

Not true.
"Military .30-03 barrels can safely and functionally be converted to .30-06 by unscrewing the barrel, setting it back (milling a small amount off the breech end), re-threading, and re-chambering. This requires a qualified gunsmith with a lathe and the proper reamer."
This is what the Military did and that is why finding a 03 Springfield in 30-03 is rare. 
  

Chuck,

The cost in both the time and labor to do the work necessary to convert a 30-03 barrel to 30-06 would be greater than simply installing a new barrel. 

In addition to milling .2" off of the breech end of the barrel, then rereaming the chamber to the correct dimension, that is not all that would have needed to be reworked. 

The rear sight mounting holes would need to me moved further forward, the barrel fitments to the stock would also need reworking/moving.  I simply do not believe that the Springfield Armory would have wasted all of the extra time needed to convert a 30-03 barrel versus simply putting a replacement barrel on the rifle.

Bert

The type l and ll with their 20 inch barrels, and the type lll and llll, with their M-95, 24 inch Musket barrels cut down to 21.75". It makes me wonder how and why they came up with that number, for the length on the barrel, and not a more even, or rounded number. I guess it really doesn't matter, just curious is all.

Years ago the barrel length on the type lll and llll, was said to be 21.50, and 22 inches long, in earlier beginning surveys. We can see how that can happen as the breach measurements can be subjective to assuming something, in many cases, I suspect.

With all the updated information, it really gives the collector some more information to go on.

Tony