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                    <title>TXGunNut on Pope Hartford 285 high wall.</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Bert-</p>
<p>Wasn't aware the receiver sight was a later issue until I read the later post. I like the Vernier sight, even if I did need a refresher course on how to use a Vernier scale. I've never seen a receiver sight with that much elevation adjustment but it appears to be less than the Mid-range sight I enjoy on my SS 32-40. I can't imagine using all the elevation the Mid-range sight has to offer. Can't tell if the receiver sight has much windage adjustment but the Mid-range has plenty for me. As much as I prefer a tang sight I find the adjustments like those found on this receiver sight easier to use, even though I'd never drill holes to mount one in a receiver when the rifle already has holes for the tang sight. Front sight is unusual as well but I suppose a riser makes sense with the stepped-down octagon barrel. I like the sight package and unusual barrel and as you noted the stock is easy on the eyes. I like it, I'll bet it's going to be fun to shoot.</p>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Pope Hartford 285 high wall.</title>
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<p><strong>TXGunNut said </strong><br />
Bert-<br />
Looks to me like the shooter wanted repeatable adjustments for varying distances and conditions. Sure messes up the classic lines but I think someone had good reason for hanging that sight on there. Seems he liked to hit stuff waaaaaay out there.<br />
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Mike<br />
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<p>Mike,</p>
<p>A Mid-range or a Long-range Vernier tang sight is a highly "repeatable" sight, and today, they are much more valuable sights.  Winchester routinely installed them on all of the higher grade Single Shot rifle variations.  Additionally, it puts the peep aperture much closer to the shooter's eye, also preferable. Having shot many rifles with both styles of sights (vernier tang peep sights and receiver peep sights), I shoot much better with the tang mounted sights, especially at longer distances.</p>
<p>The Lyman receiver sight on the OP's rifle is not period correct (it was added decades after Pope built that rifle), and that is my personal &#038; primary objection to it.  I do like the unique barrel contour<img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Cool" alt="Cool" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-cool.gif" /></p>
<p>Mid-range vernier tang sight</p>
<p><img data-upload="1" data-width="1280" data-height="497" title="Serial-57289-3.jpeg" alt="Serial-57289-3.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/bert-h/2026/09/Serial-57289-3.jpeg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="800" data-height="274" title="Mid-range-vernier.jpeg" alt="Mid-range-vernier.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/bert-h/2026/09/Mid-range-vernier.jpeg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="150" data-height="540" title="Mid-range-vernier-2.jpeg" alt="Mid-range-vernier-2.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/bert-h/2026/09/Mid-range-vernier-2.jpeg" /></p>
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<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2026 23:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>BPJACK on Pope Hartford 285 high wall.</title>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2026 23:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>BPJACK on Pope Hartford 285 high wall.</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Here is the page for in in the Hartford Pope book Vol 2.</p>
<p>28" 32-40<img data-upload="1" data-width="1152" data-height="767" title="Pope-book-P1-copy.jpg" alt="Pope-book-P1-copy.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/bpjack/2026/09/Pope-book-P1-copy.jpg" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2026 23:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on Pope Hartford 285 high wall.</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Bert-</p>
<p>Looks to me like the shooter wanted repeatable adjustments for varying distances and conditions. Sure messes up the classic lines but I think someone had good reason for hanging that sight on there. Seems he liked to hit stuff waaaaaay out there.</p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2026 23:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Pope Hartford 285 high wall.</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>What is the barrel length? Caliber?</p>
<p>I don't understand why someone D&#038;T'd the receiver frame for the peep sight when a tang mounted sight could have easily been installed, and would have provided an improved sight radius.</p>
<p>Nice looking furniture! <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Cool" alt="Cool" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-cool.gif" /></p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2026 22:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>steve004 on Pope Hartford 285 high wall.</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Looks like a tack-driver.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2026 22:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>BPJACK on Pope Hartford 285 high wall.</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>A unique possible one of a kind barrel profile and funky sights make this an interesting acquisition.  On its way to me to be the caretaker for a few years before it passes on to another.  </p>
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<p>Jack<img data-upload="1" data-width="5215" data-height="1648" title="Pope-32-40-right-full.JPG" alt="Pope-32-40-right-full.JPG" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/bpjack/2026/09/Pope-32-40-right-full.JPG" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2026 21:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>MidwestCrisis on Help please: front sight hood height on post-64 Model 94?  Pics</title>
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<p>TXGunNut said<br />
From a practical standpoint that front sight won't work with that hood, obviously. Do we know that front sight works with your rear sight and rifle? If it's too tall that hood will work better with a shorter front sight. It looks a bit tall to me but my post-64 94's have found homes elsewhere and I don't know if the new owners ride mopeds.<br />
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<p>Well, the rifle shot this group first time out two days ago at 50 yards using that front sight and the rear buckhorn adjusted two notches down. So I'd say it shoots well with that front sight. (top three shots were initial group, bottom seven shots were after I adjusted the rear sight to lower point of impact; front sight placed at bottom of black 8 ring)</p>
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<p>Your rifle shoots well but your sight picture is incorrect.  The hood will obscure your target.  </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2026 20:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Athappyhiker on Help please: front sight hood height on post-64 Model 94?  Pics</title>
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<p><strong>TXGunNut said </strong><br />
From a practical standpoint that front sight won't work with that hood, obviously. Do we know that front sight works with your rear sight and rifle? If it's too tall that hood will work better with a shorter front sight. It looks a bit tall to me but my post-64 94's have found homes elsewhere and I don't know if the new owners ride mopeds.<br />
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Mike<br />
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<p>Well, the rifle shot this group first time out two days ago at 50 yards using that front sight and the rear buckhorn adjusted two notches down. So I'd say it shoots well with that front sight. (top three shots were initial group, bottom seven shots were after I adjusted the rear sight to lower point of impact; front sight placed at bottom of black 8 ring)</p>
<p><img alt="target" src="https://i.imgur.com/7p5keV9.jpg" width="1366" height="1632" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2026 20:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Help please: front sight hood height on post-64 Model 94?  Pics</title>
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Zebulon said<br />
The pre-64 used a Winchester #3276/L hood. <br />
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<p>Hi Zeb,<br />
Where did you get that info from?  My Winchester Component Parts catalogs state the 3276 is the style "A" hood for the pre-64 Model 94 and the 3277 hood is the "BL" (style B, Low) hood.  All the post WWII Component Parts catalogs could be wrong though, wouldn't be the first time 😉<br />
Just want to make sure my personal notes are correct.<br />
Best Regards,<br />
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<p>Hey, Jeff. I thought I got it from your chart!  Upon reflection, I may have added the "/L" on my own, because I know it was the issue hood for the Pre-64 Model 94 and it was lower than the 3278/M - which latter designation and "3279/H", I've seen in print. Probably temporary derangement from the North Texas heat. </p>
<p>I'm sure you are correct that 3276 is catalogued as Style A and the 3277 is Style BL, both being low[er] hoods but different from each other. My 64 Deer Rifle has a 3277 and it's taller than a 3276.  So they are properly a 3277/BL and a 3276/A. (I don't know why it isn't "/AL" but that might be too rational.) </p>
<p>I would bet a donut some office bureaucrat decreed this pair of letter styles instead of something like "3276/XL" and "3277/L" because he couldn't think of anything lower than "low." </p>
<p>Bill </p>
<p>P.S.  Two facts I really am increasingly sure of: </p>
<p>1. Generalissimo Franco is <em>still </em>dead. </p>
<p>2. Winchester sight hood #3279/H is a mythical, non-existent object. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2026 02:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>george@georgeamlott.com on Rearranged Part 2</title>
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<p><strong>TXGunNut said </strong><br />
That is Blasphemy!  What you really need to do is buy a third gun safe!!<br />
Bert<br />
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<p>I like George's idea. I closed an article awhile back with "What's in your gun safe?" and got a few interesting responses. Hard to beat a nice collection of 71's or 64's but that's not the point. A sentimental favorite works for me.<br />
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Mike<br />
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<p>Let’s do it……😎</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2026 01:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on Help please: front sight hood height on post-64 Model 94?  Pics</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>From a practical standpoint that front sight won't work with that hood, obviously. Do we know that front sight works with your rear sight and rifle? If it's too tall that hood will work better with a shorter front sight. It looks a bit tall to me but my post-64 94's have found homes elsewhere and I don't know if the new owners ride mopeds.</p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2026 23:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on Rearranged Part 2</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>That is Blasphemy!  What you really need to do is buy a <strong>third</strong> gun safe!!</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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<p>A recent remodel has made room for an additional safe but it won't be necessary as I've managed to thin the herd a bit. Every time I dig thru the safe I find something I want to shoot so I won't be needing anything new and interesting to shoot any time soon. This past week a Winder Musket caught my eye! Problem is all my interesting guns are in a chest style safe in thick gun socks. Recon can be a chore. Some of our members have given up on safes and choose to display a portion of their collection. I enjoy keeping four or five on display just because. </p>
<p>I like George's idea. I closed an article awhile back with "What's in your gun safe?" and got a few interesting responses. Hard to beat a nice collection of 71's or 64's but that's not the point. A sentimental favorite works for me.</p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2026 21:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>george@georgeamlott.com on Rearranged Part 2</title>
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<strong><a href="mailto:george@georgeamlott.com" target="_blank">george@georgeamlott.com</a> said </strong></p>
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Bert H. said</p>
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<a href="mailto:george@georgeamlott.com" target="_blank">george@georgeamlott.com</a> said</p>
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I’ve started alternating rows in my safes….<br />
1 row barrel up, next row barrel down.  I have two 32 gun safes side by side, and each one has probably 40 guns in it…… I need to sell a few.  <br />
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<p>That is Blasphemy!  What you really need to do is buy a third gun safe!!<br />
Bert<br />
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<p>Ok…. You’re the expert! 😂😂😂<br />
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<p><img data-upload="1" data-width="4032" data-height="3024" title="IMG_0785.jpeg" alt="IMG_0785.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/georgegeorgeamlott-com/2026/09/IMG_0785.jpeg" />My current setup…</p>
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