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                    <title>Bert H. on Pope Hartford 285 high wall.</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>There have been several different companies who have manufactured very similar sights.  I believe that the original Mid-range vernier sights were made for Winchester by an inside contractor.</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2026 05:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>BPJACK on Pope Hartford 285 high wall.</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Bert,</p>
<p>I have that mid range Winchester sight on a DST 32-40 that I picked up at the Post Falls show last year. </p>
<p>I also just bought a DST 22 that has this sight on it.  Not being an iron sight guy, do you know who<img data-upload="1" data-width="1008" data-height="721" title="DST-22-Tang-Sight-sm.JPG" alt="DST-22-Tang-Sight-sm.JPG" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/bpjack/2026/09/DST-22-Tang-Sight-sm.JPG" /> the manufacturer is?</p>
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<p>Jack</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2026 02:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on Pope Hartford 285 high wall.</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Bert-</p>
<p>I was thinking it was a 17, no shortage of inserts around here if they haven't changed since this one was made. I'm guessing it was added with the receiver sight. Someone did his homework figuring out that riser block. Nice work.</p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2026 02:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Athappyhiker on Help please: front sight hood height on post-64 Model 94?  Pics</title>
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<p><strong>MidwestCrisis said </strong></p>
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<p>Athappyhiker said </p>
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<p>TXGunNut said<br />
From a practical standpoint that front sight won't work with that hood, obviously. Do we know that front sight works with your rear sight and rifle? If it's too tall that hood will work better with a shorter front sight. It looks a bit tall to me but my post-64 94's have found homes elsewhere and I don't know if the new owners ride mopeds.<br />
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Mike<br />
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<p>Well, the rifle shot this group first time out two days ago at 50 yards using that front sight and the rear buckhorn adjusted two notches down. So I'd say it shoots well with that front sight. (top three shots were initial group, bottom seven shots were after I adjusted the rear sight to lower point of impact; front sight placed at bottom of black 8 ring)<br />
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<p>Your rifle shoots well but your sight picture is incorrect.  The hood will obscure your target.  <br />
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<p>Yeah, I didn't have the hood on when I shot it.  The rifle was bought without a hood, I ordered that one from Numrich and as soon as I saw how it was too small I took off the hood.  Think I'm just going to keep it without a hood.  </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2026 02:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Pope Hartford 285 high wall.</title>
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<p><strong>TXGunNut said </strong><br />
 Front sight is unusual as well but I suppose a riser makes sense with the stepped-down octagon barrel. I like the sight package and unusual barrel and as you noted the stock is easy on the eyes. I like it, I'll bet it's going to be fun to shoot.<br />
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<p>The front sight appears to be a Lyman No. 17A, and they are great sights when complete with all of their many inserts.  I have one of them on my low-wall Single Shot in 25-20 S.S., paired with a Lyman No. 103 Micrometer wind gauge tang sight.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2026 02:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on Pope Hartford 285 high wall.</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Bert-</p>
<p>Wasn't aware the receiver sight was a later issue until I read the later post. I like the Vernier sight, even if I did need a refresher course on how to use a Vernier scale. I've never seen a receiver sight with that much elevation adjustment but it appears to be less than the Mid-range sight I enjoy on my SS 32-40. I can't imagine using all the elevation the Mid-range sight has to offer. Can't tell if the receiver sight has much windage adjustment but the Mid-range has plenty for me. As much as I prefer a tang sight I find the adjustments like those found on this receiver sight easier to use, even though I'd never drill holes to mount one in a receiver when the rifle already has holes for the tang sight. Front sight is unusual as well but I suppose a riser makes sense with the stepped-down octagon barrel. I like the sight package and unusual barrel and as you noted the stock is easy on the eyes. I like it, I'll bet it's going to be fun to shoot.</p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2026 00:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Pope Hartford 285 high wall.</title>
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<p><strong>TXGunNut said </strong><br />
Bert-<br />
Looks to me like the shooter wanted repeatable adjustments for varying distances and conditions. Sure messes up the classic lines but I think someone had good reason for hanging that sight on there. Seems he liked to hit stuff waaaaaay out there.<br />
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Mike<br />
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<p>Mike,</p>
<p>A Mid-range or a Long-range Vernier tang sight is a highly "repeatable" sight, and today, they are much more valuable sights.  Winchester routinely installed them on all of the higher grade Single Shot rifle variations.  Additionally, it puts the peep aperture much closer to the shooter's eye, also preferable. Having shot many rifles with both styles of sights (vernier tang peep sights and receiver peep sights), I shoot much better with the tang mounted sights, especially at longer distances.</p>
<p>The Lyman receiver sight on the OP's rifle is not period correct (it was added decades after Pope built that rifle), and that is my personal &#038; primary objection to it.  I do like the unique barrel contour<img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Cool" alt="Cool" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-cool.gif" /></p>
<p>Mid-range vernier tang sight</p>
<p><img data-upload="1" data-width="1280" data-height="497" title="Serial-57289-3.jpeg" alt="Serial-57289-3.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/bert-h/2026/09/Serial-57289-3.jpeg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="800" data-height="274" title="Mid-range-vernier.jpeg" alt="Mid-range-vernier.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/bert-h/2026/09/Mid-range-vernier.jpeg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="150" data-height="540" title="Mid-range-vernier-2.jpeg" alt="Mid-range-vernier-2.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/bert-h/2026/09/Mid-range-vernier-2.jpeg" /></p>
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<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2026 23:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>BPJACK on Pope Hartford 285 high wall.</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Second page</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2026 23:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>BPJACK on Pope Hartford 285 high wall.</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Here is the page for in in the Hartford Pope book Vol 2.</p>
<p>28" 32-40<img data-upload="1" data-width="1152" data-height="767" title="Pope-book-P1-copy.jpg" alt="Pope-book-P1-copy.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/bpjack/2026/09/Pope-book-P1-copy.jpg" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2026 23:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on Pope Hartford 285 high wall.</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Bert-</p>
<p>Looks to me like the shooter wanted repeatable adjustments for varying distances and conditions. Sure messes up the classic lines but I think someone had good reason for hanging that sight on there. Seems he liked to hit stuff waaaaaay out there.</p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2026 23:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Pope Hartford 285 high wall.</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>What is the barrel length? Caliber?</p>
<p>I don't understand why someone D&#038;T'd the receiver frame for the peep sight when a tang mounted sight could have easily been installed, and would have provided an improved sight radius.</p>
<p>Nice looking furniture! <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Cool" alt="Cool" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-cool.gif" /></p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2026 22:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>steve004 on Pope Hartford 285 high wall.</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Looks like a tack-driver.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2026 22:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>BPJACK on Pope Hartford 285 high wall.</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>A unique possible one of a kind barrel profile and funky sights make this an interesting acquisition.  On its way to me to be the caretaker for a few years before it passes on to another.  </p>
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<p>Jack<img data-upload="1" data-width="5215" data-height="1648" title="Pope-32-40-right-full.JPG" alt="Pope-32-40-right-full.JPG" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/bpjack/2026/09/Pope-32-40-right-full.JPG" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2026 21:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>MidwestCrisis on Help please: front sight hood height on post-64 Model 94?  Pics</title>
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<p><strong>Athappyhiker said </strong></p>
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<p>TXGunNut said<br />
From a practical standpoint that front sight won't work with that hood, obviously. Do we know that front sight works with your rear sight and rifle? If it's too tall that hood will work better with a shorter front sight. It looks a bit tall to me but my post-64 94's have found homes elsewhere and I don't know if the new owners ride mopeds.<br />
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Mike<br />
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<p>Well, the rifle shot this group first time out two days ago at 50 yards using that front sight and the rear buckhorn adjusted two notches down. So I'd say it shoots well with that front sight. (top three shots were initial group, bottom seven shots were after I adjusted the rear sight to lower point of impact; front sight placed at bottom of black 8 ring)</p>
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<p>Your rifle shoots well but your sight picture is incorrect.  The hood will obscure your target.  </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2026 20:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Athappyhiker on Help please: front sight hood height on post-64 Model 94?  Pics</title>
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<p><strong>TXGunNut said </strong><br />
From a practical standpoint that front sight won't work with that hood, obviously. Do we know that front sight works with your rear sight and rifle? If it's too tall that hood will work better with a shorter front sight. It looks a bit tall to me but my post-64 94's have found homes elsewhere and I don't know if the new owners ride mopeds.<br />
 <br />
Mike<br />
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<p>Well, the rifle shot this group first time out two days ago at 50 yards using that front sight and the rear buckhorn adjusted two notches down. So I'd say it shoots well with that front sight. (top three shots were initial group, bottom seven shots were after I adjusted the rear sight to lower point of impact; front sight placed at bottom of black 8 ring)</p>
<p><img alt="target" src="https://i.imgur.com/7p5keV9.jpg" width="1366" height="1632" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2026 20:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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