Mark Douglas said

Buck1967 said

steve004 said
I know the topic of this thread started with, "The average 1866" but Burt Humphrey took us off course with his far from average (i.e. wonderful) '66.  I've never owned a '66 but that's not due to zero desire.  I happened to be watching one of Mark Douglas's videos this morning on the M1866.  This one is also very far from average.  It had great appeal to me.  In fact, if I could own the one in his video and the one Burt has, I'd be ... well... words escape me as to how happy I would be.
Mark has great fun shooting the rifle and does a great job of explaining the topic of conversion from rimfire to centerfire:

  

Stunning video and thanks for sharing! That would indeed be a dream Winchester to own! 
  

Believe it or not, my wife recently acquired that 1866 and encouraged me to make the video.  I married far above my station.
Just yesterday, I loaded up some black powder cartridges and did some more shooting with it.  Mark
  

If one was ever able to acquire a good shooting centerfire 66 would It be possible to order some rounds from you? Would pay good money as expected.

steve004 said

Mark Douglas said

Buck1967 said

steve004 said
I know the topic of this thread started with, "The average 1866" but Burt Humphrey took us off course with his far from average (i.e. wonderful) '66.  I've never owned a '66 but that's not due to zero desire.  I happened to be watching one of Mark Douglas's videos this morning on the M1866.  This one is also very far from average.  It had great appeal to me.  In fact, if I could own the one in his video and the one Burt has, I'd be ... well... words escape me as to how happy I would be.
Mark has great fun shooting the rifle and does a great job of explaining the topic of conversion from rimfire to centerfire:

  

Stunning video and thanks for sharing! That would indeed be a dream Winchester to own! 
  

Believe it or not, my wife recently acquired that 1866 and encouraged me to make the video.  I married far above my station.
Just yesterday, I loaded up some black powder cartridges and did some more shooting with it.  Mark
  

Wow!  Yes indeed!  And as I recall, this is the same wife that has let you shoot her Colt Lightning .50-95!
  

Nice - that 66 carbine was a Christmas gift from my wife a long time ago - the gun came from Tommy Rholes. A unique feature of very early 66 carbines is the rifle butt - both 66 rifles and carbines were fitted with rifle style butt stocks until around serial #22,000. I personally like the look of the rifle buttstock better than the later carbine style butt. 

Mark Douglas said

Buck1967 said

steve004 said
I know the topic of this thread started with, "The average 1866" but Burt Humphrey took us off course with his far from average (i.e. wonderful) '66.  I've never owned a '66 but that's not due to zero desire.  I happened to be watching one of Mark Douglas's videos this morning on the M1866.  This one is also very far from average.  It had great appeal to me.  In fact, if I could own the one in his video and the one Burt has, I'd be ... well... words escape me as to how happy I would be.
Mark has great fun shooting the rifle and does a great job of explaining the topic of conversion from rimfire to centerfire:

  

Stunning video and thanks for sharing! That would indeed be a dream Winchester to own! 
  

Believe it or not, my wife recently acquired that 1866 and encouraged me to make the video.  I married far above my station.
Just yesterday, I loaded up some black powder cartridges and did some more shooting with it.  Mark
  

Wow!  Yes indeed!  And as I recall, this is the same wife that has let you shoot her Colt Lightning .50-95!

Buck1967 said

steve004 said
I know the topic of this thread started with, "The average 1866" but Burt Humphrey took us off course with his far from average (i.e. wonderful) '66.  I've never owned a '66 but that's not due to zero desire.  I happened to be watching one of Mark Douglas's videos this morning on the M1866.  This one is also very far from average.  It had great appeal to me.  In fact, if I could own the one in his video and the one Burt has, I'd be ... well... words escape me as to how happy I would be.
Mark has great fun shooting the rifle and does a great job of explaining the topic of conversion from rimfire to centerfire:

  

Stunning video and thanks for sharing! That would indeed be a dream Winchester to own! 
  

Believe it or not, my wife recently acquired that 1866 and encouraged me to make the video.  I married far above my station.

Just yesterday, I loaded up some black powder cartridges and did some more shooting with it.  Mark

steve004 said
I know the topic of this thread started with, "The average 1866" but Burt Humphrey took us off course with his far from average (i.e. wonderful) '66.  I've never owned a '66 but that's not due to zero desire.  I happened to be watching one of Mark Douglas's videos this morning on the M1866.  This one is also very far from average.  It had great appeal to me.  In fact, if I could own the one in his video and the one Burt has, I'd be ... well... words escape me as to how happy I would be.
Mark has great fun shooting the rifle and does a great job of explaining the topic of conversion from rimfire to centerfire:

  

Stunning video and thanks for sharing! That would indeed be a dream Winchester to own! 

This reminds me of spending time with my grandparents in the early 70's.  They were farmers and very hardworking people.  They had very similar histories, attitudes and generally were always on the same page.  They would enjoy watching a TV program in the evenings and my grandmother's favorite show was Mash.  She really enjoyed the comedic aspect of it.  My grandfather refused to watch it.  I recall his statement on the topic:  "there's nothing funny about war."  I don't think he would have thought much of paintball games.  

There's many paths that lead us to the attitudes and perspectives we take.  None of us have walked down identical paths. 

Mark has great fun shooting the rifle and does a great job of explaining the topic of conversion from rimfire to centerfire:

tsbccut said

Sorry Michael, but it's not my rifle. I came across it on the Guns International site. Item number is 103483425
Regards,
Tom
  

That is a help.  I found it.

Michael

It appears withing the first few minutes of the video.  Lots of other cool stuff.  This would be quite the auction to attend:

t=203s

twobit said

tsbccut said
Gentlemen,
I'm trying to become more educated, and I couldn't find any reference to this on the Forum. Is the "WRA" stamp on the receiver of the
pictured Model 1892 of any significance? It's a lousy photo and a bit hard to see, but it's there. It's where the serial number should be......
Thanks,
Tom
  

Hello Tom,
Your rifle does appears to differ slightly from most Winchester that have a similar stamp on the underside of the receiver where the serial number would typically be found.  On others the "background area" has a stippled imprint and then the WRACO stamp applied over that as shown in the attached images.  There is no confirmed explanation for why these guns are marked as such and several theories are proposed.  To me they have holes in them that do not make much sense.  This is one of the items that I am trying to research in my spare time.
Can you please send me more detailed photos of the WRA stamp, the upper tang just below the hammer, and the stamped writing on the barrel.
Michael
  

Sorry Michael, but it's not my rifle. I came across it on the Guns International site. Item number is 103483425

Regards,

Tom

There are parents who should not be allowed to play with matches, much less own a deadly weapon, but they vote too and any attempt to deprive or regulate them winds up disarming the virtuous and trustworthy. 

One of the benefits of high school ROTC and other youth organizations is they can, if allowed, teach gun safety, a now politically charged expression that no longer means safe gun handling to the Left. 

Would I prefer a parent do it? In all honesty it depends on the parent. Because I can't pick and choose, better a qualified public school teacher than nobody. That assumes the course curriculum involves much more than "DON'T TOUCH AND CALL 911." 

it will never happen because gun control is a religion of the Left. 

Zebulon said

I think children of normal intelligence are capable of distinguishing between toy and weapons if properly taught and it serves no useful purpose to forbid them the former in order to train them to be safe with the latter. But I had a demanding father and was very much a hands-on father to my own sons.
Perhaps that mode of child-rearing has gone out of style. There is more than one way to do most things. I disagree that allowing a child to play with toy guns is irresponsible parenting per se. 
  

Hi Zeb-

The issue IMHO is well summarized by your statement above...  "IF PROPERLY TAUGHT"...  Who's doing the teaching these days???  If a Kid is learning about guns from movies, video games, etc., platforms that consistently dehumanized the "target", then it's not a good thing...  I wouldn't worry about your Kids or their Kids, or the Children of (at least most of) the Folks who frequent this site.  

Heck... I learned to shoot (pretty well if I dare say so...) with a Crossman BB gun...  But I KNEW that my hide would be worthless if I misstepped in any way...

Absent Parents, the only thing worse than what we've got is for Big Brother to step in and save us from ourselves...

Just my take...

Lou

MidwestCrisis said
I believe this is troll.  Still, good conversation. 
  

I think I got a whiff of that as well. 

Mike

mrcvs said
FWIW, here’s an example of not treating every firearm as if it’s loaded—and this individual was once a presidential candidate:
“On December 30, 1912, at the age of twelve, Stevenson accidentally killed Ruth Merwin, a 16-year-old friend, while demonstrating drill technique with a rifle, inadvertently left loaded, during a party at the Stevenson home.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adlai_Stevenson_II
  

Stevenson was born into wealth and was the son of a very busy and powerful news executive. He graduate from Choate, Princeton, and (eventually) Harvard Law. A very bright man and a fairly able governor of Illinois, he always struck me as lacking common sense, which the facts of this accident do nothing to dispel. I doubt he confused the rifle with a toy. He just failed to observe Rules One, Two, and Three.