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                    <title>Zebulon on Model 71 Coming Up </title>
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<p><strong>MidwestCrisis said </strong><br />
There’s no checkering.  Most of the blue is there except the fore end cap.  Stock’s have a lot of use but not refinished.  Hoping that the wrist crack will scare most buyers away.   I was curious about the recoil.  I have a ‘69 model 70 in 338 WM and that’s about as hard as I like to get hit.  I’ll read Burt’s articles tonight.  <br />
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<p>Manageable recoil is subjective but the 338 Winchester Magnum generates significantly more foot pounds of recoil at a higher recoil velocity, than the 348 WCF, in guns and bullets of equal weight. </p>
<p>Subjectively, I don't find the recoil of my Model 70 30/06 with 180 grain bullets noticeably different than that of my Model 71 with 200 grain bullets, both loaded to factory velocities. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2026 01:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Model 71 Coming Up </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Unless "well over" means &#062;$2k USD and if it has condition, you bought a prewar 71 special at what I think is a bargain price. If it still has its original strap and its Supergrade swivels,  I'd bet somebody took good care of the rest of the rifle. </p>
<p>I'm not knowledgeable enough to know whether an untapped receiver means a 98a would be correct for a 1940 d.o.m. </p>
<p>I shoot my collection and need an aperture sight for my eyes. Somebody had robbed the 56W that had been original to my own 1949 gun. In my case, since I couldn't have the bolt peep, the tapped left receiver wall was serendipitous. My strong preference in micrometer receiver sights is the Redfield 70. It was tough finding the as new, steel Redfield 80W I finally paid too much for and nevertheless have to put up with target knobs. But, with a Redfield Sourdough up front and a generous aperture screwed in, the gun still suits me very well. It would likely be the last one I'd sell. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2026 00:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>MidwestCrisis on Model 71 Coming Up </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>There’s no checkering.  Most of the blue is there except the fore end cap.  Stock’s have a lot of use but not refinished.  Hoping that the wrist crack will scare most buyers away.   I was curious about the recoil.  I have a ‘69 model 70 in 338 WM and that’s about as hard as I like to get hit.  I’ll read Burt’s articles tonight.  </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2026 00:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>rogertherelic on Model 71 Coming Up </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>There must be something in the air!  That just happenened to me this morning!  A Model 71 "SPECIAL" c.1940 (ser. 18310) short tang, untapped receiver, with what appears to be the <span style="text-decoration: underline">original</span> sling and swivels.  I paid well over 3 times what Midwest Crisis "might go".  However, the stocks are almost unatainable!  Hope to get pics tomorrow.  RDB</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2026 23:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on 40-82 refinished???</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Well, the seller does take American Express.  If I could figure out a way to get out of it, I'd be tempted to see what old AMEX would do four nanoseconds after I hit the BIN button. </p>
<p>Just to hear somebody with a South Asian accent scream "SAY WHAT???" </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2026 23:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Model 71 Coming Up </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>My advice is go for it if you can get it for a reasonable price. Is it the Standard Grade or the Special? The bolt peep is pricey all by itself. Very popular. </p>
<p>Without knowing more, I'd assume the crack is in the wrist, caused by dropping the fairly heavy gun on its steel toe. </p>
<p>If that is so, you should be able to make the repair from inside the inletting, using Acraglass as you propose. You already know how to increase the glue joint surfaces and make cross-joint pillars with a sharp chisel. My only advice would be to use the gel version and add some powdered aluminum to  the gel. </p>
<p>The 71 is the last iteration of the Model 1886, made of stronger steel and modified to use coil springs rather than flat springs. It is my favorite Winchester lever action rifle and I think it's the finest rifle the company has ever made. </p>
<p>The 348 Winchester was WRACO's way of creating a magnum version of the then popular 33 WCF. They upped the groove diameter to a full .348 from .338 and, whereas the older 33 case is a necked down 45-70 Gov't, the 348 case is a necked down 50-110 WCF. </p>
<p>The 348 is a fine, flexible cartridge that was once available in 150, 200, and 250 grain bullet loadings, although it has been obsolete for a while now. The 200 grain factory load was a Silvertip that had a published velocity of about 2550 foot seconds, as I recall, assuming the 24" barrel rifle. There was a 20" prewar version neither of us can afford but it was an earsplitting flamethrower anyway.</p>
<p>My experience has been with a 1990 Browning 71 and then a 1949 Winchester 71 Special (the one with checkered stocks, grip cap, and Supergrade sling swivels.) </p>
<p>I think the 348 handles cast bullets well at reduced velocities using 4759 and 3031 and can be handloaded with jacketed bullets to pretty much factory velocities with 4350. While the 150 grain load loses velocity quickly, it still makes up into a very fine Whitetail load within 100 to 150 yards, with mild recoil. The 250 grain bullet at full velocity will kill anything that walks on the North American Continent, as long as the range is not too great. </p>
<p>If you want to learn more about the 71, our own Bert H. has published several scholarly articles on this model in the <em>Collector </em>that are easily found in the archives, one of which I believe appeared in 2026. These cover the subject thoroughly and I commend them to you strongly and, preferably, before you bid.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2026 22:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>MidwestCrisis on Model 71 Coming Up </title>
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<strong>Tedk said </strong><br />
$?<br />
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<p>I might go 500-550</p>
<p>its a 1946 sn 23802</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2026 21:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Tedk on Model 71 Coming Up </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>$?</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2026 21:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>MidwestCrisis on Model 71 Coming Up </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Every time I say I’m not buying another gun for a while.  I find a few I want to watch then one starts whispering to me when the auction gets close to closing.  This is a 71 with 24” barrel and bolt peep. Decent finish but says there’s a crack in the wrist.  Can’t really see it in the photos.  I believe I could do a blind repair with acroglass. It could be a fun project if the price stays right.  I’m not familiar with the newer generation rifles or the 348 caliber. Any thoughts or advice?</p>
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<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Adam</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2026 21:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Henry Mero on 40-82 refinished???</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I would gladly take 1/2 of that for My c.c.'rd "94 , maybe even a 1/3.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2026 20:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>mrcvs on 40-82 refinished???</title>
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<p><strong>kevindpm61 said </strong><br />
That is a nice 94 but $80,000 is a lot of money. Is that price realistic in todays market?<br />
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<p>Umm..no, not even close!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2026 19:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>kevindpm61 on 40-82 refinished???</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>That is a nice 94 but $80,000 is a lot of money. Is that price realistic in todays market?</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2026 18:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on 40-82 refinished???</title>
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<p><strong>Rick C said </strong><br />
The cc on this one appears original imo from the photos for its age and matches the wear. That is a very nice 1894.<br />
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<p>Yes, I believe many of us know who owned it at the time it was on the cover of Robert Renneberg's book. </p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2026 18:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Rick C on 40-82 refinished???</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>The cc on this one appears original imo from the photos for its age and matches the wear. That is a very nice 1894.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2026 17:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>tionesta1 on 40-82 refinished???</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>He has this model 1894 deluxe also. Which was pictured on the front cover of Robert Renneberg's Model 94 book 2nd edition. I'm sure it's all original, but wow the price he's asking.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/rifles/winchester-rifles-model-1894-pre-64/winchester-deluxe-model-1894-lever-action-rifle-30-wcf-with-factory-letter.cfm?gun_id=103619719" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/rifles/winchester-rifles-model-1894-pre-64/winchester-deluxe-model-1894-lever-action-rifle-30-wcf-with-factory-letter.cfm?gun_id=103619719</a></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2026 17:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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