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                    <title>TXGunNut on Just Purchased: Winchester Hotchkiss 1883 Fancy Sporting Rifle</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Mark-</p>
<p>IMHO Kevin made a wise choice sending this special project your way. If anyone can pull it off, you can. </p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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                    <title>Mark Douglas on Just Purchased: Winchester Hotchkiss 1883 Fancy Sporting Rifle</title>
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<p><strong>kevindpm61 said </strong><br />
I got great news from Wyoming Armory today. The barrel arrived last week and the preliminary assessment is that it is correct for the rifle!<br />
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<p>Ha! It's certainly been a process having that barrel blank made.  Of course no barrel maker on God's green earth had a profile for an extra length 28" Hotchkiss sporting rifle barrel - or a standard length for that matter.  Because Kevin's had a non-original replacement barrel installed, we didn't have an original barrel to measure the profile.  It took us months to track down original Hotchkiss sporting rifles that owners would let us measure profiles.  Then we had to extrapolate the profile of the extra barrel length and compare it to the barrel channel in the original stock to make sure it matched.</p>
<p>Next, not a single barrel blank maker who offers the correct land &#038; bore dimensions &#038; twist rate in a 6-groove barrel would make that "one-off" profile for us.  We ended up having to commit to a large volume purchase of 1-in-22 twist 45 caliber barrels from a maker in Montana so that he would commit to buy the tooling for this one special order barrel.  After a long wait, we received the barrel and it had been made too short. Because it's such a special profile, we just had to absorb the cost of that blank. After another long wait, we just received the replacement and it appears to be correct.</p>
<p>Kevin's been faithful about updating the progress, but I think it's given the impression that we take an abnormally long time to rebarrel a rifle.  Usually we can have a blank in a standard configuration made in 4-6 weeks.  One-off special profiles can take dramatically longer.  </p>
<p>After a recent similar experience with having a 1894 22" extra light, 1/2 octagon blank made in 38-55, we're a little gun shy about taking on projects with very special order barre profiles, at least until we finish putting together the equipment needed to start profiling our own barrel blanks.  Mark </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2026 13:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bill Hockett on Johnny Ringo`s 1876 Winchester</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>SN lookup sheet for Model 1876 SN 21896</p>
<p>Type: Rifle<br />
Caliber: 45/60<br />
Barrel Type: Octagon<br />
Barrel Length: 26 inches<br />
Trigger: Plain<br />
Received in warehouse on January 06, 1882<br />
Shipped from warehouse on January 14, 1882, Order number 30868</p>
<p>See Maverick's comments above...it would have been brand new.</p>
<p>This rifle is not known to exist today.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2026 22:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>kevindpm61 on Just Purchased: Winchester Hotchkiss 1883 Fancy Sporting Rifle</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I got great news from Wyoming Armory today. The barrel arrived last week and the preliminary assessment is that it is correct for the rifle!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2026 16:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Burt Humphrey on WINCHESTER 1892 DELUXE TAKEDOWN ?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>As those with a keen interest in the Model 1892 already know, a checkered variation which is original, correct, has condition and letters is a rare speciman. They are not as hard to find as a deluxe 53 or 55 but the good one's have been tucked away in collections.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2026 16:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>duck1022 on 1942 m70 target 220 swift</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I agree would love to know the provenance of the stock, its gorgeous.  And it certainly wasn't somones first attempt at making a stock.  No marks that I have found, thought I found an easter egg under the front of the trigger guard.  A perfectly folded piece of paper, but it was just the corner of a target, I think it had Boyles printed on it.  Must have been using it as a thin shim.  </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2026 14:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>twobit on WINCHESTER 1892 DELUXE TAKEDOWN ?</title>
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Thants interresting Michael, can you remember when and where you seen it listed, when i got the rifle there was no auctions hear in Australia, and checking through my past posts I did mention it on this sight some yrs ago.<br />
Im just a bit curious.<br />
tony<br />
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<p>Tony,</p>
<p>My mistake I think.  I had the rifle "listed" as being in Australia but as you can tell from my spreadsheet there is not information regarding the caliber stamp, proof marks, barrel address, upper tang or sights.  Nor did I have WACA or your name associated with it.  Years ago an AU collectors sent me some images of old AU auction listings so I assumed that was where I had gotten the info.</p>
<p>Michael</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2026 11:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Tony. R on WINCHESTER 1892 DELUXE TAKEDOWN ?</title>
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<p><strong>Chris D said </strong><br />
So lets see a picture of this beauty Tony....<br />
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<p>unfortunatly, Chris i traded for a delux 73 , quite a few yrs ago to a friend, (stupid me ) and he still has it, but it has never been on the net, thats why im curious as to where Michael had seen it from an auction sight. I bought it in 1979 for $300, off a friend in sydney who owned it for yrs. I can trace the history back over 50yrs. so if it was in an auction it would of been in the 60s.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2026 07:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Maverick on Johnny Ringo`s 1876 Winchester</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>So Johnny Ringo died in July 1882. I'm not sure what month #21896 was made in, but it must have been earlier in the year and Ringo must have not owned it for very long before "pushing up daisies"! </p>
<p>Ain't no telling were that rifle is. It won't show up until one day when it finally does and that is if it ever does.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Maverick</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2026 03:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Chris D on WINCHESTER 1892 DELUXE TAKEDOWN ?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>So lets see a picture of this beauty Tony....</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2026 23:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Randy3590 on Winchester Commemorative Boy Scout</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>So I got my second Eagle Scout today (thank you Bill) the serial number is 20 I am now looking for the Boy Scout #20 (BSA 20) </p>
<p>Will pay top dollar or trade NIB Boy Scout plus $$</p>
<p>Thank you </p>
<p>Randy</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2026 22:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Louis Luttrell on Model 70 Target production #'s</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jim-</p>
<p>Such things (factory checkered Marksman stocks) do exist, and in rare cases can be documented as factory work.  I know of one that belongs to a Member of this Forum (not mine) that has perfect provenance.</p>
<p>The factory pattern was somewhat specific, although I think (???) that whether the grip checkering went over the top of the wrist (Super Grade style) was variable.  This (below) is a gun I bought...  It's got the factory pattern (matching known ones), but whether it was done by the factory or not is a mystery...</p>
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<p>Best,</p>
<p>Lou</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2026 22:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Tony. R on WINCHESTER 1892 DELUXE TAKEDOWN ?</title>
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Hear is one Michael, you dont have , one of my first purchases back in the late 70s<br />
1892 rd/oct<br />
short mag<br />
takedown<br />
receiver sight<br />
2x wood straight grip<br />
38wcf<br />
858131<br />
condition 95%<br />
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<p>I did happen to have it listed already from an old auction catalog.  Sounds like a nice rifle for sure.  Winchester was making a lot of T/D's in that SN range.<br />
Michael</p>
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<p>Thants interresting Michael, can you remember when and where you seen it listed, when i got the rifle there was no auctions hear in Australia, and checking through my past posts I did mention it on this sight some yrs ago.</p>
<p>Im just a bit curious.</p>
<p>tony</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2026 18:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Jim F in CT on Model 70 Target production #'s</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>All this talk about M70 Target Rifles, has reminded me . . . .</p>
<p>I was privy to the extensive gun collection that Ken Waters had. (He was a noted magazine writer for Wolf Publications.)</p>
<p>In his “stash” was a M70 Target (don’t remember the caliber) but, it had a Marksman stock that, according to Ken, was Factory Checkered!</p>
<p>I actually got to <strong>HOLD </strong><strong>IT IN MY HANDS!</strong></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2026 18:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>steve004 on Winchester M92 special order</title>
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<p><strong>Anthony said </strong><br />
Michael,<br />
The added information and pictures, besides what Bert had posted truly helps many of us to understand this model better.<br />
We're grateful for members like you, and Bert for the time and dedication to our beloved hobby!<br />
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Tony<br />
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<p>I echo Tony's comments completely.  Model 1892's are a model I have had quite a bit of familiarity with.  But even more now!  It is satisfying to progressively be able to, "make sense" of the various variations and changes Winchester made over the years.  Bert and Michael stand out as Winchester gurus who have enhanced my knowledge over what totals many years now.</p>
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