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                    <title>TXGunNut on 1886 50-100 on GB</title>
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<p><strong><a href="mailto:fred.lasor@gmail.com" target="_blank">fred.lasor@gmail.com</a> said </strong><br />
If one were to "create" a rifle to match a letter, would it not destroy a seller's reputation beyond repair if the original surfaced?  Seems like you'd have to be pretty certain the original would never surface.  Just sayin'.<br />
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<p>This particular seller may not be aware of the issues noted in the above posts. </p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 18:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>fred.lasor@gmail.com on 1886 50-100 on GB</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>If one were to "create" a rifle to match a letter, would it not destroy a seller's reputation beyond repair if the original surfaced?  Seems like you'd have to be pretty certain the original would never surface.  Just sayin'.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 18:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Burt Humphrey on 1886 50-100 on GB</title>
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<p>Mark Douglas said<br />
I'm in agreement with Rick and Bill.<br />
In addition to having gone through a recent mediocre restoration, retaining 0% original finish and having a new barrel installed, the serial number appears to have been hand stamped with an incorrect font and poor spacing.  The 0, 2 and especially the 7 are quite a lot different. Winchester serial numbers from this timeframe were typically much more evenly spaced and aligned.  Here's an example of a serial number from an 1886 from the same timeframe in my collection for comparison:<br />
It certainly raises the question of whether or not this was the original serial number applied to this tang.  Mark<br />
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<p>Now that you point that out…<br />
Makes me suspect the rifle was created to match the letter.<br />
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<p>In additon to the issues noted by Mark regarding the serial number stamping, the caliber stamping is far too pronounced - looks like it was done yesterday. I think Lan's comment about building a gun to match a letter might be spot-on. The big 50's are rare - only 331 made. Anyone interested in them should read the article written by Jim Paul (now decerased) and Tom Adams for the summer 2012 edition of the Collector magazine.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 18:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>fred.lasor@gmail.com on 1886 50-100 on GB</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>If you want to see an 1886 in 50-100-450 that has NOT been restored, Mark posted a nice video on mine a couple of weeks ago.  Nothing on mine has been changed since I bought it in 1967.  Here's Mark's video.  Fred. Oops!  I see Mark beat me to it!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 17:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on 1886 50-100 on GB</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Mark,</p>
<p>The Single Shot rifle was factory chambered for a larger cartridge... the 577 Eley.  In total (11) of them.  Most of them also went to India for large &#038; dangerous critters.</p>
<p>To provide a visual, the attached picture shows a 577 Eley cartridge alongside a 50-110 Ex and a 50-95 WCF (from my personal cartridge collection);</p>
<p><img data-upload="1" data-width="1240" data-height="1547" title="577-Eley-vs-50-110-EX-vs-50-95-WCF.JPG" alt="577-Eley-vs-50-110-EX-vs-50-95-WCF.JPG" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/bert-h/2026/07/577-Eley-vs-50-110-EX-vs-50-95-WCF.JPG" /></p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 16:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on 35 Winchester</title>
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<p><strong>426crown said </strong><br />
Where would one find how many Rifles/Carbines  WRA made in  35 Caliber. The 1895 and Hotchkis were  2 models, understand there were others.  Bill<br />
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<p>Bill,</p>
<p>It was available in the Singe Shot and Model 1895... not the Hotchkiss.</p>
<p>In total, just (14) high-wall Single Shot rifles were factory chambered for the 35 WCF.  Brad most likely has at least a good idea how many were manufactured in the Model 1895.</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 16:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Mark Douglas on 1886 50-100 on GB</title>
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<p><strong>TXGunNut said </strong><br />
Mark-<br />
From the photos of the subject rifle do you have an opinion whether it will load and feed the big 50?<br />
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Mike<br />
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<p>Mike,</p>
<p>It's difficult to say from looking at the pictures and not being able to examine the rifle and cycle rounds through it.  Pics 56,57 &#038; 58 offer the best view into the receiver.  The left cartridge guide looks like it's been thinned properly to allow room for the cartridge to clear, but we can't see the right cartridge guide to see if it's been thinned.  We also can't see the back half of the carrier to see if it's been properly "opened up" to accept the larger diameter 50 caliber cartridge. </p>
<p>The magazine follower certainly looks like it protrudes farther into the receiver than normal.  Of course, there are a whole series of modifications that have to be made in the lower half of the receiver and magazine to allow the 50 caliber cartridge to be loaded into the mag tube.  Going too far with these mods could allow that follower to sit further into the receiver.  If it protrudes too far, the carrier won't be able to clear the follower and it won't be able to cycle.  I can't tell whether that would be the case with this rifle or not. </p>
<p>Lastly, the chamfer on the bottom of the breech end of the barrel has to be smoothed and polished to get the 50 caliber cartridge to chamber.  It appears that this one has been taken further than on original 50 caliber rifles I've seen and the rim cut at the bottom of the breach has been completely polished out. I wouldn't say definitively without examining the rifle in person, but I'd be very surprised if the work done to make this 50 caliber 1886 function was done by Winchester. Mark</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 14:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Anthony on 35 Winchester</title>
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<p><strong>Jeremy P said </strong><br />
I have an 1895 in 35 win. also, curious to know this also!<br />
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<p>Same Here! Like Minds Think alike! <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Smile" alt="Smile" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" /></p>
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<p>Tony</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 14:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Anthony on refinished 1886 45-70</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I think from the past listings, on rifles such as you've described, and with you're included information, and pictures we can ask the main question as to what you have invested in this, shooter grade, refinished piece.</p>
<p>It's evident on the quality, or lack of, on the re finished piece, so no need for me to go there.</p>
<p>You can look at the aftermarket replica shooters as a fair comparison, even though you have an original rifle manufactured in 1895, as you stated. Hopefully the bore is good and it shoots well.</p>
<p>Jeremy brings up a very interesting take on the barrel and it's caliber. A Cody search can verify the original caliber.</p>
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<p>Tony</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 14:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Jeremy P on 35 Winchester</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I have an 1895 in 35 win. too, curious to know this also!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 14:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Jeremy P on refinished 1886 45-70</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Given that caliber stamp on the barrel, my gut says that rifle (or just the barrel itself) started out as a different caliber in life and was changed later. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 14:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on 1886 50-100 on GB</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Mark-</p>
<p>From the photos of the subject rifle do you have an opinion whether it will load and feed the big 50?</p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 14:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>quack1 on Bluing ?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>In addition to the added barrel sight, the 3 extra screws visible on the left side of the action show there was a scope mounted on the gun at one time, too.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 13:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>nascar fan on refinished 1886 45-70</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I got this in an estate buy a few day ago. I know it's refinished at some point and that kills any collector value. My question is would be the value of such a gun. Serial dates it to 1895 which I understand should be cased receiver and parts. Wood is in nice shape as is the entire gun with the exception of the refinish aspect. </p>
<p>Here is a link to pics.</p>
<p><a href="https://postimg.cc/gallery/RWYg0yV" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://postimg.cc/gallery/RWYg0yV</a></p>
<p>Thanks, Charles.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 13:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bo Rich on Bluing ?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I have a Standard Model 71 that was made in 1942.  It features a 98 bolt peep, along with a 22 K rear sight with a 1b elevator.   It looks to me that it may of come from the factory as it sits.  I know of a few Old Timers that liked a rifle set up with a barrel, and peep sight.  They liked the set up for shooting at longer ranges.  Stating that the front sight was a bit more sharper.  That being said, I prefer not to have a rear sight when I am using a peep!  Bert, you do have this rifle in your survey. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 13:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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