TXGunNut said
Mark-
From the photos of the subject rifle do you have an opinion whether it will load and feed the big 50?
 
Mike
  

Mike,

It's difficult to say from looking at the pictures and not being able to examine the rifle and cycle rounds through it.  Pics 56,57 & 58 offer the best view into the receiver.  The left cartridge guide looks like it's been thinned properly to allow room for the cartridge to clear, but we can't see the right cartridge guide to see if it's been thinned.  We also can't see the back half of the carrier to see if it's been properly "opened up" to accept the larger diameter 50 caliber cartridge. 

The magazine follower certainly looks like it protrudes farther into the receiver than normal.  Of course, there are a whole series of modifications that have to be made in the lower half of the receiver and magazine to allow the 50 caliber cartridge to be loaded into the mag tube.  Going too far with these mods could allow that follower to sit further into the receiver.  If it protrudes too far, the carrier won't be able to clear the follower and it won't be able to cycle.  I can't tell whether that would be the case with this rifle or not. 

Lastly, the chamfer on the bottom of the breech end of the barrel has to be smoothed and polished to get the 50 caliber cartridge to chamber.  It appears that this one has been taken further than on original 50 caliber rifles I've seen and the rim cut at the bottom of the breach has been completely polished out. I wouldn't say definitively without examining the rifle in person, but I'd be very surprised if the work done to make this 50 caliber 1886 function was done by Winchester. Mark

Jeremy P said
I have an 1895 in 35 win. also, curious to know this also!
  

Same Here! Like Minds Think alike!

Tony

It's evident on the quality, or lack of, on the re finished piece, so no need for me to go there.

You can look at the aftermarket replica shooters as a fair comparison, even though you have an original rifle manufactured in 1895, as you stated. Hopefully the bore is good and it shoots well.

Jeremy brings up a very interesting take on the barrel and it's caliber. A Cody search can verify the original caliber.

Tony

From the photos of the subject rifle do you have an opinion whether it will load and feed the big 50?

Mike

Here is a link to pics.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/RWYg0yV

Thanks, Charles.

Bert H. said

rogertherelic said
Over the years I have seen a few Model 71s and Model 64s with the bolt peep and a barrel rear sight that appear to have come that way from factory.  Is this possible?  RDB
  

I am not of the opinion that Winchester would have installed both a bolt peep sight and a barrel mounted sporting sight as the two sights interfere with one another's sighting plane.  I suspect that the barrel mounted (dovetail) sights were added by a former owner/dealer.
Bert
  

Roger,

I like you're statement and question!

I'm in agreement with Bert on this, as it seems table holders/dealers seem to take the inexpensive route to enhance a rifle, and mount the extra sight or sights on them. We've seen this too many times, not to wonder. 

Tony

Like Abba, "Take a Chance"!  I apologize for the mix up on the Country, but I was enjoying some chocolate while typing!

No flame wars here, as the members stepped up and brought several very good perspectives to light, from a few different angles. IMO!

It's nice to hear that many comments and members helping out.

Tony

Thanks for the comments.  I hope I did not start a flame war on the commemoratives.

@Zeb

I have found a dealer that has new Winchester M1892 Short Rifle in both .357 Magnum and .44 Magnum.  And M1886 Short Rifle in 45-70

I might go there to have a look.  But I need to check out the calibers, since we also have restrictions in bullet weight and impact energy at 100 meters.

This is what we call Class 1 game:

Moose, bear, red deer, mouflon sheep, musk ox, wisent & wild boar, and there you have 3 different requirements:

Minimum 139gr and 2700J or 155gr and 2000J or if the bullet is a lead free copper bullet, 119gr and 2000J

Class 2 game is roe deer, lynx, wolverine, beaver and seal.

The minimum requirement is 50gr and 800J

I know that 45-70 fulfill the class 1 requirements, but I am not sure of the other.

@Anthony

Sweden like Abba, not Switzerland like chocolate

@Midwest

The 25-35 sounds like a cool cartridge, but I am not sure if it is available over here.  And how it would be classified according to type of game.  Both guns look good.  You can clearly see that the 25-35 has been used a lot, and that is what it is made for.

@King Medallion

That is a really nice one

Take care guys and stay safe

/Georg